No. 15

Q. I am in the U.S. (State:Michigan) and would like to buy a Beretta 85F. Are they still available new, and do you have any information on the performance of this model? Also, I do not know much about guns, but am learning more each day. Can you suggest a URL or site where I can learn about semi-automatic pistols before I buy? (01/01/1999)

A. Yes, the Beretta 85FS Cheetah is still today on the Beretta price list. (1998 Beretta price list).
For the performances of this model, I copy the Beretta list for you.

Beretta says :
The Beretta Cheetah .380 pistols offer all the advantages that make their big brother the standard against which all other pistols are judged.
The open slide design increases reliability and virtually eliminates jams and stovepiping.
The frame is made from an aluminum alloy with the strength and durability of steel. Safety is assured through the firing pin block and trigger bar disconnect that disengages the trigger from the sear mechanism when the safety is on. Features like these, and built-in reliability and quality that come standard with every Beretta, make the Cheetah a natural for personal defense and an ideal back-up gun for law enforcement professionals.
The Model 84FS Cheetah is a .380 caliber double-action pistol with all of the exceptional safety features you’ve come to expect from a Beretta. The manual safety with hammer decocking device lowers the hammer and interrupts the connection between trigger, hammer and sear. The pistol cannot be fired until the trigger is pulled. Even if the pistol is dropped, an internal firing pin blocking device prevents accidental discharge. The magazine release is reversible and allows fast exchange of the staggered magazine. The enlarged combat trigger guard provides support for a two-handed hold or use with gloves. The 84FS Cheetah features a corrosion-resistant anodized alloy frame with matte black finish and chromium-plated bore. A nickel-finished version of the 84FS Cheetah is available with plastic or wood grips.
The Model 85FS Cheetah has all of the basic Model 84FS features. With its straight-line, 8 round magazine (*), the pistol has a slimmer profile for greater concealability when used as a back-up gun or for those with small hands. The 85FS Cheetah is available with a nickel finish and plastic or wood grips.
The Model 83FS Cheetah is identical to the 85FS model but with a longer, 4-inch barrel and a straight line, 7 round magazine (*).

(*) Maximum magazine capacities for pistols. Consult local authorities for magazine capacity restrictions that may apply in your locale.

I say:
For what it regards URL or sites in which to find informations on firearms you must make like all the people that goes by INTERNET:
you must visit the sites of the firearms factories;
you must visit the sites of the firearms vendors;
you must visit the sites of the associations of the fans of the guns;
you must visit also the government sites.
In all this sites you will find also links to hundred of other sites.


No. 16

Q.Would you kindly send me any information on (modello) 950 cal. 6, 35mm. Thank you for your time and consideration. (01/02/1999)

A. Model 950 is a single-action, semi-automatic, blowbackaction pistol.
One of the main features is a tip-up barrel for quick, direct chamber loading and unloading, without working the slide.
The first model of this pistol has been constructed in 1950 years.
The last model is still produced.
Every model differs from previous ones for some modification or improvement. The passage from a model to the other happens in the respect of the conception original of the firearm. We can distinguish the following main models:
- patent (model) 950 cal. 25 ACP (6,35 mm Browning), 60 mm barrel
- patent (model) 950 SPECIAL cal. 22 short (22 corto), 95 mm barrel
- model 950 B cal. 25 ACP
- model 950 B, 950 B SPECIAL cal. 22 short
- model 950 CC, 950 CC SPECIAL cal. 22 short
- model 950 BS (JETFIRE) cal. 25 ACP
The Italian production ended on the earlier 1990 years.
Model 950 BS (JETFIRE) is the model today produced.
Model 950 BS (JETFIRE) is produced in the States, by Beretta USA Corporation.
The feature that distinguishes the model 950 BS from the previous ones is the hammer safety. Chambered for 25 ACP ammunition, 950 BS JETFIRE is also available in nickel and in EL models, featuring fine gold inlay on the slide and other gold accents.


No. 17

Q. I am interested in Beretta patent 1919 model 418 cal .25 and model 20 cal .25 Please can you send me specifications and a scan of what they look like?
You seem to be very expert on Beretta. Are you a dealer, a collector or a shop owner for Beretta? (01/02/1999)

A. You ask me the specifications for the patent 1919 model 418 and model 20 pistols. Moreover, if I have understood, you ask me which features of the two pistols are equal and which features ones differ.
Well. These two models have equal only the caliber !

The Beretta pistol patent 1919, is a single-action, semi-automatic, blowbackaction pistol cal. 6.35 Browning (.25 ACP). The firing system is constituted from a flying firing pin. The barrel is 60 mm long, 8 round magazine, grip-safety. The weight of the arm with empty magazine is about 350 g.
There are many models of this gun. The first model has been constructed in 1920. The last model (418) has been produced until 1961 and sold until to 1965.
Patent 1919 model 418 was constructed from year 1937 to year 1961.
The main difference from the previous model is the presence of the warning of cocked firing pin. The warning of cocked firing pin is realized through the posterior part of the firing pin that go out from the posterior part of the slide. In this model the exemplary with the frame in alloy are frequent. In the last pistols the slide serrations are inclined and the grip-safety is of synthetic material; the grips have a different shape: the metallic plate is missing and they are entire of synthetic material In this model are present guns with special finishes (engraved, gold plated, silver plated).

The Beretta pistol model 20, caliber 6.35 Browning (.25 ACP), is a double-action, semi-automatic, blowbackaction pistol, with external hammer. One of the main features is a tip-up barrel for quick, direct chamber loading and unloading, without working the slide. The barrel is 61 mm long, 8 round magazine, hammer-safety. The weight of the arm with empty magazine is about 325 g.
The first version of this pistol has been constructed in 1960 years.
The last version (21A - Bobcat) is still produced in the States, by Beretta USA Corporation.
Also in this model are present guns with special finishes.

For what it regards me, I am only a fan of the Beretta guns. To study the Beretta guns is mine hobby.


No. 18

Q. Dear friend, I was wondering of a P Beretta cal 6.35 Gardone is a collectible gun. and it is a 25 automatic from 1955 made in Italy., and if you can give me a price on it, it is like bran new and is in very good shape. thankyou. (01/02/1999)

A. For being able to say the price of a Beretta pistol, more information would be necessary. It would be necessary to know the model.
Since the caliber of the gun is 6.35 and the manufacturing year is 1955, would have to be a pistol:
- patent 1919, model 418
- patent 950 (model 950).
Model 950 is recognizable for the drop barrel.
The written " GARDONE " and the lack of the model would make to think to model 418.
If the gun is a model 418, if it is really in very good shape, its price would have to be approximately 150 or 200 USD (in Italy).


No. 19

Q. Is the Beretta 92FS the same as the Taurus PT-92? Please reply to my e-mail. Thanks for your time. (01/02/1999)

A. Taurus is a Brazilian Corporation that for a ten of years, around the years 1970, it has produced, under licence of Beretta, Beretta firearms. (In order to understand, you can think to the Beretta USA Corporation that today it produces, in the States, Beretta firearms.)
In the following years the commercial agreement changed and today Taurus produces, using some Beretta patents, Taurus firearms.
These firearms, in some cases, are really quite similar to the Beretta guns, but they are not Beretta guns.
Therefore Taurus PT-92 is really quite similar to Beretta 92FS, but is not a Beretta 92FS one.


No. 20

Q. I have purchased a Beretta Model 70, 7.65 mm, in very good condition. Serial number is 51439. I would like to know when this pistol was manufactured according to the serial number and also would like to know if Beretta still supplies parts for this pistol, or if this parts can be purchased form other sources. In advance, I thank your reply. Best regards. (01/02/1999)

A. An official publication does not exist in which it is written the correspondence between serial number and years of manufacturing.
For knowing with precision in which year it has been produced a Beretta pistol with a determined serial number, it would be necessary to consult the Beretta Corporation documents.
I cannot make this now.
But I think, according to my experience, than the serial number 51439 it must have been manufactured in 1962. (I can make a mistake of one or two years).
In Italy, the parts of this pistol still are sold from the Beretta and from the other suppliers of parts of guns.


No. 21

Q. Dear Person, I was wondering if model 418 was a collectible or not. Also for the model 418 I was wondering if you had any clips for this gun, and if so can you please tell me the price of two of them. And if not would you please recommend a place that would carry a clip for this gun. Thankyou. (01/11/1999)

A. The Beretta pistol model 418 is collectible or not? This only depends on the laws of the Country where you live. I do not know where you live. I think that you live in the States, but also in this case I do not know the law of your Country well and I cannot give you such information.
I can only say to you that I visited the website of the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms. In such website there is a list of the curious or relics firearms. In this list there is not the Beretta model 418, very probably why produced after second World War. There are instead the older 6.35 pistols , for instance :" Beretta, model 1919 pistol (without grip safety), caliber 6.35mm.".
I have not understood well that what you mean with the word " clips ". I think that you want to say "extra magazines ". In this case I think that you must search such pieces on the second hand market. Price? In Italy about 20 USD each one.


No. 22

Q. I have a 8045 mini Cougar and am having a hard time trying to find extra magazines....any suggestions? Thanks in advance! (01/14/1999)

A. Not, no suggestion.
Here, in Italy, when I have need of a magazine, I try it in the armory where generally I make my purchases.
If the magazine is available OK (this it happens very rarely, in practical only for the Beretta 92/98 FS).
If the magazine is not available, I order it by the retailer to the Beretta and wait one week, two weeks, three weeks........
It would be easier to find a second hand magazine, but I think that the 8045 mini Cougar is too much new model for this possibility.
Perhaps you can try to find on INTERNET some company that carries out correspondence sales.


No. 23

Q. Do you have a picture of the 948 model .22mm? If you do, I would really appreciate it if you could email it to me. I need it for some research I'm doing. (01/28/1999)

A. Here enclosed some pictures of Beretta mod 948 cal. 22 L.R. I hope that the images are useful to you.

Remarks:

948 - first gun :
Manufacturing year : 1955
Serial number : 054899N
Slide marking (left side) : P.BERETTA-Gardone V.T.-Cal.22L.R.-Mod.948
Slide marking (right side) : MADE IN ITALY
Barrel : two original barrels, long barrel (150 mm) and short barrel (85 mm)
Proofmarks : left side of the frame
Grips : second type
Front of the slide : opened around the barrel
Front sight : on the barrel.

948 - second gun :
Manufacturing year : 1952
Serial number : 026322N
Slide marking (left side) : P.BERETTA-Gardone V.T.-CAL.22L.R. (first line)
MOD.948 (second line)
Slide marking (right side) : MADE IN ITALY
Barrel : short barrel (85 mm)
Proofmarks : left side of the frame
Grips : first type
Front of the slide : close around the barrel
Front sight : on the slide.

948 - third gun :
Manufacturing year : 1954
Serial number : 051299N
Slide marking (left side) : P.BERETTA-Gardone V.T.-Cal.22L.R.-Mod.948
Slide marking (right side) : MADE IN ITALY
Barrel : short barrel (85 mm)
Proofmarks : left side of the frame
Grips : first type
Front of the slide : opened around the barrel
Front sight : on the barrel.


No. 24

Q. Hello, I would like to know if you have knowledge of industry wide malfunctions with the 92 FS Centurion. I am doing research and your help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
"Subjugating the enemy's army without fighting is the true pinnacle of excellence." Sun-tzu (02/20/1999)

A. Sir, as far as the question if I have knowledge of industry wide malfunctions with the 92 FS Centurion, my answer is : "No, no at all.".
Moreover, I can add that it is really very difficult that a pistol of 92 series has some problem.
Some problem that I have heard, was caused from a bad ammunitions supply. During some crash tests carried out in Italy, have taken place serious problems after 10,000 shots. Of these 10,000 shots many were overloaded. I saw a man that fired in a 92 FS a reloaded cartridge with the bullet and the primer, but without powder. The bullet came out from the case and stopped within the barrel. Subsequently the same man fired another cartridge, this time with regular loading. The gun lightly warped , but some piece of metal or other material was not thrown about.
A friend said to me that in the States it has been coined a new word : "berettability" that means: "reliable and sure like a Beretta".


No. 25

Q. I have been looking at buying the Beretta Cougar 8040 (.40 S&W) as my first defensive handgun. The other day I went and tried out a rental to see how I liked it before I get one. One problem. I could not control the muzzle flip. Even holding it with two hands, I could not stop the gun from recoiling. Every few shots the gun would jam. I love the gun, but I'm afraid that it may be too powerful for me. I'm an average size guy, but I have no experience with shooting.
Do you think that with practice I will eventually be able to control the gun better? Or should I look at a round / gun combination with less recoil? I like the .40 cal as a defense round, and would prefer not to go to a smaller cal. What do you think?
By the way, I shot a score of 87 w/10 rounds at 10 yards first time out. About a 2 1/4 inch group. (02/25/1999)

A. Yes, certainly, with practice you will be able to control the gun better.
I think also that the size of the person is not very important for the control of the gun. In fact an average size guy can shoot well with whichever pistol. However it is necessary some practice.
Of other hand the cal .40 S&W is really a very fast cal and is a "rude" cal (I am usual to use this word). It is a cal with a great recoil.
For this reason you could think to buy a Cougar 8000F (9 mm para) or a Cougar 8045F (.45 A.C.P.). These two cals have a smaller recoil. These two cals are two cals very good for the defense. Moreover cal .45 A.C.P. has a very good stopping power and is a really "calm" cal (I say so).
For what it regards the score, I think that it is a good score for the first time. I saw to shoot many people in a very poor way.


No. 26

Q. Dear Sir, I own this pistol :

P BERETTA-CAL.9 CORTO-M" 1934-BREVET
GARDONE V.T. 1943-XX
serial number 3655AA.

It belonged to my Grandfather, who passed away several years ago. He brought it home with him from Europe after World War II. I've wondered about it's history for years.
Can you tell me anything about the gun, it's history, or it's value? (03/09/1999)

A. Models 1934 (.380 auto) and 1935 (.32 A.C.P.) are between most famous and popular models of Beretta pistols.
I think that model 1934 is the symbol of the Beretta pistols all over the world; only recently to model 1934 has been placed side by side the model 92, new current symbol of the Beretta pistols in the world.
The pistol model 1934 has been produced from 1934 until to 1991 and it is still today on the Beretta pricelist. The production total is of approximately 1.100.000 pieces. The series ....AA was produced in years 1943 - 1944 in approximately 10.000 pieces. Previously 650,000 model 1934 had been produced approximately. A lot of guns 1934, series ....AA, was sold the German Army. These weapons are recognizable from the presence of the punch "4 UT". The date written on slide (1943-XX) brings also the indication of "the Fascist era" ( XX : it is a Roman number who means 20 and wants to say 20 years from the beginning of the Fascist Government in Italy - 1923).
Model 1934 (and model 1935) was the official pistol of the Italian army during the second World War. It accompanied the Italian soldiers to Africa, Russia, Greece and in the Liberation's war.
In some cases, during the last phases of the conflict, it became the official pistol of the German Army in Italy.
Model 1934 had many fans among the soldiers of all the world and in particular among the American and English soldiers. The characteristics mainly appreciated were dimensions, weight, simplicity, reliability, cal. Many American soldiers carried, beyond to the Government model of 1911, also the Beretta model 1934. Evidently between these American soldiers there was also your Grandfather.
Today this pistol has value especially for the collectors. On the Italian market the value of this weapon is from 400,000 Lit (about 250 USD) to 900,000 Lit (about 550 USD), for pieces really in nice conditions. I think that the quotations on the American market are quite similar.


No. 27

Q. WOULD THE SLIDE OF A BERETTA MODEL 84F(.380) FIT THE BERETTA MODEL 81F(.32).SOME ONE TOLD THAT IT WOULD FIT.KINDLY CLARIFY FOR ME.THANK YOU. (03/10/1999)

A. The answer is: yes ......... but not perfectly!
As the weapons must be perfect, the answer is: no!
I have examined a pistol model 84F and a pistol model 81F. For istance, the slot of the slide in which the hold-open enters differs lightly and the hold-open of model 81F does not work correctly and it does not hold opened the slide. More: in order that the slide of a pistol entered perfectly in the frame of the other would have been necessary some small adjustments..... I think that to exchange pieces of guns is always an error. In other words to exchange pieces is useful only when the exchange is admitted and guaranteed from the industry that has produced the gun.
I hope to have explained to you which is my thought.


No. 28

Q. Sono alla disperata ricerca di immagini delle Beretta tipo
-tipo olimpionico (modello 949) cal. 22 L.R.
-tipo olimpionico (modello 949) cal. 22 corto
acquistata intorno al 1957 per tirare al poligono UITS. (03/18/1999)

A. Allego alla presente risposta due immagini della pistola Beretta modello 1949 tipo olimpionico.
La prima immagine si riferisce ad un primo tipo dove il castello è visibilmente più alto del secondo tipo. Infatti, come puoi vedere, nel primo tipo il castello ingloba una buona parte del ponticello del grilletto, che invece, nel secondo tipo, è completamente libero e definito nella sua interezza. Se non sbaglio, solo il secondo tipo è stato prodotto anche in calibro 22 L.R., mentre il primo tipo è stato prodotto unicamente in calibro 22 corto. (peraltro, per quanto riguarda il secondo tipo, non vi sono differenze degne di nota tra gli esemplari di calibro diverso).
Di queste pistole è nota anche una "preserie", poche centinaia di esemplari, in cui il castello era talmente alto da far scomparire del tutto il ponticello del grilletto.
Spero di esserti stato utile.


No. 29

Q. I have seen the Cougar in Inox in the catalog, do you know of any way I can get one in Texas (US). Thank You (03/24/1999)

A. Recently I have visited the website of Beretta USA Corporation (http://www.berettausa.com).
In this website there is the list of the dealers of the Beretta guns in Texas. However also it is written that the Cougar Inox is not sold in the States.
At this point the only possibility is to buy the gun in a foreign Country and then to import the pistol in the United States. For istance, you could buy the gun in Italy. In any case it is necessary to know the laws of Texas and Federal Laws with regard to the import of firearms. If you decide to buy the gun in Italy, I give you the address of an enough big Italian gun store that has some contact with the American market. You can try to write or to phone. ....................................


No. 30

Q. Did Beretta develop the first 9mm Parabellum auto pisto? If so, what was the year and model? Thanks. (03/24/1999)

A. No, it didn't.
The first 9mm Parabellum auto pistol was developed by Georg Luger.
It is the "Luger mod.1902". It was manufactured in 1902 and was the first pistol in the world to use the 9mm Parabellum ammo.
Beretta produced in 1915 an auto pistol named "patent 1915", cal. 9 mm Glisenti (this pistol was also the first pistol made by Beretta). The 9 mm GLISENTI ammunition has the same dimensions of 9 mm parabellum, but the power of 9 mm GLISENTI ammunition is considerably smaller (about 20% lower), for being able to be used on handguns with blowbackaction ( 9 mm parabellum ammo demands a locked breech). Subsequently the model 23 (9mm Glisenti) and the model 34 (9mm short - .380 ACP) were produced.
After some prototypes, only in 1951 the Beretta produced the first auto pistol cal 9mm Parabellum named "model 1951". This gun has a locked breech "type Walther" and was adopted from the Italian army and, subsequently, from the Egyptian and the Israeli army.


No. 31

Q. Posso avere una breve storia della beretta brevetto 1915 - modello 1917 - calibro 7,65 Browning, ed il suo attuale valore economico per collezionisti? Grazie.(03/25/1999)

A. La Beretta Brevetto 1915, Modello 1917, è la "versione ridotta", in calibro 7,65, della pistola Beretta Brevetto 1915 calibro 9mm Glisenti.
Quest'ultima pistola è stata la prima pistola prodotta in assoluto dalla Beretta, negli anni dal 1915 al 1918.
La Brevetto 1915, Modello 1917 è stata invece prodotta dal 1917 al 1921 in circa 50.000 esemplari. Essa adotta una gran parte delle soluzioni tecniche già messe a punto e sperimentate per la calibro 9mm, risultando nel complesso una pistola sostanzialmente analoga a quella in calibro 9mm, se non per le dimensioni ed il peso, tutti ridotti in proporzione.
Consistenti lotti di questa pistola furono venduti al Regio Esercito, per armare i nostri Ufficiali nelle fasi finali della Prima Guerra Mondiale; sensibili quantitativi di questa arma furono venduti anche sul mercato civile ed un certo quantitativo fu venduto all'Esercito Finlandese.
Questo modello ebbe vita abbastanza breve in quanto, nel 1922, fu sostituito dalla Brevetto 1915-1919, Modello 1922, che si distingue dal precedente modello per una serie di particolari tra i quali i principali sono il sistema di bloccaggio della canna al fusto dell'arma e la forma del carrello, che lascia scoperta quasi tutta la parte superiore della canna, caratteristica quest'ultima comune a tutte le pistole Beretta fino ai nostri giorni (fatta eccezione per la Cougar e la modello 90).
Il valore economico di quest'arma, sul mercato collezionistico, non è particolarmente elevato e può variare, in funzione delle condizioni dell'arma, dalle 300.000 alle 500.000 lire.


No. 32

Q. Can you tell me where I can find the factory grips or a equal pair of quality grips for the model 950 B, 950 B SPECIAL cal. 22 short. I damaged my grips with an organic solvent while I was cleaning them. If you could assist me I appreciate it! Thanks. (03/26/1999)

A. Sir, I send you two addresses.

1. ..................
This is an enough large company. It is specialized, between the other things, in spare parts of Beretta guns and must have the grips for the model 950 B.

2. ..................
He is a very good gunsmith. He is specialized, between the other things, in Beretta guns. Also this person would have to be able to find the spare parts that interest you.


No. 33

Q. I AM TRYING TO BUY 2 SLIDES FOR THE MODEL 81F.COULD YOU SOURCE THESE FOR ME.LET ME KNOW THE PRICE IN US DOLLARS.THE 81F IS NOT SOLD IN THE USA.I URGENTLY AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE. (03/26/1999)

A. Sir,
unfortunately, in Italy, the slides are "essential part of arm".
For that reason they can be only sold mounted on the gun.
They cannot be sold stand alone.
In other words it is necessary to send the gun to the factory, where is mounted the new piece and destroyed the old piece.
Therefore, in this case, I cannot give you some aid.


No. 34

Q. I have a Beretta Modelo 1951 serial number E02873. It was made in 1955 for the Egyptian government. It has the early type frame. I need a pair of original grips and I would like to find some spare magazines and an Italian holster.
I have not found any sources in the USA (I have even mailed Beretta USA and they can not help). Do you know where I can find them? (03/26/1999)

A. Sir, I send you two addresses.

1. .....................
This is an enough large company. It is specialized, between the other things, in spare parts of Beretta guns and must have the grips for the model 1951. (the grips for early type frame differ ???)

2. .....................
He is a very good gunsmith. He is specialized, between the other things, in Beretta guns. Also this person would have to be able to find the spare parts that interest to you.


No. 35

Q. Dear Sir,
according to the uruguayan law, the larger caliber allowed for civilian use in semi-automatic is the 7.65.
Insted of using the 32 ACP, I'd like to convert a modern 9mm to 7.65 Para. I tried to find modern arms for this cartridge in U.S.A. but without succses.
I understand that it has been used in Italy before the 9x21, and what I'm asking you is if it's possible to get in Italy barels for this cartridge. Perhaps is possible to get custom barels? In that case I'll choose a Glock 19.
I'll apreciate any information you can provide me. (03/26/1999)

A. I send you an address:
........................
This is a company that makes custom arms and parts of arms. I believe that you can contact this company for your problem.
But, attention:
The cost of a custom barrel is great. It could happen that the barrel costs how much the entire arm or also more. Often the guns converted from 9 Para to 7.65 Para have some problems (feed jams).
I think also that you could try on the second hand market a gun originally 7,65 Para. For istance a Beretta 98F cal 7.65 Para. Or a Sig 210, equally cal 7.65 Para.
Do you want the address of an Italian gun store that has some contact with the American market?
.........................
I hope to have been useful to you.


No. 36

Q. I'm a police-officer in Belgium and our service gun is a Beretta 92 FS Brigadier. For the moment I'm following a course for Range-officer (shooting) and I have to make a work about Berreta pistols double Action and Double Action Only. Is it possible to sent me the technical fichier of the 92 FS and the 92 D and any explanation about the difference in the working of the Double Action and the Double Action Only. (03/30/1999)

A. In order to answer to your question I will make large use of that the Beretta says. But I will add also some personal considerations.

Beretta says:

92 Series Pistols are semi-automatics and operate on the short recoil, delayed locking block system, which yields a faster cycle time. Each features a lightweight, forged frame made from aircraft-quality aluminum alloy. A combat trigger guard is standard. The slide and other steel components are coated with Bruniton, a Teflon based material that provides superior corrosion resistance and reduced friction between frame and slide. High definition sights. Standard 3-dot sight system is designed for quick target acquisition. Notched rear sight is dovetailed to slide. Blade front sight is integrated with slide. Three-dot tritium night sight system also available.
All 92 Series pistols feature unique safety refinements. On FS models, the ambidextrous manual safety also functions as a decocking lever. A firing pin block secures the firing pin, preventing it from moving forward and accidentally discharging, even if the pistol falls and strikes the ground muzzle down. The chamber loaded indicator is an added safety feature. When a round is chambered, the extractor protrudes to show a red indicator. In the dark, the user can feel the slightly protruding indicator.
The 92 Series pistols are available in 9mm Parabellum, .40 caliber, and 9mm x21 IMI.

Brigadier Pistols : the pistol incorporates all the high performance characteristics of the traditional 92 Series pistols, plus features that are uniquely Brigadier's. The Brigadier's slide is heavier and recontoured. This design accommodates a removable front sight and provides shooters with a critically important advantage. Because of the heavier slide, the gun's balance is enhanced and felt recoil is reduced significantly, increasing accuracy for second and subsequent shots. The Brigadier pistol is available in 9mm Parabellum (FS and D Models), .40 caliber (FS, D and G versions), and 9mm x21 IMI (98 Brigadier FS).

92D Models are double action only versions of the standard 92FS, with no external safety levers ("slick slide") and the hammer spur removed. Extended side serrations provide a sure grip for fast, easy racking of the slide. D models are as easy to operate as a revolver, with the exact same smooth trigger pull for each shot.

92 Series Pistol Specifications:

model
caliber
Magazine Capacity
Action
Overall Length (mm/in)
Barrel Length (mm/in)
Rifling
Pitch (mm/in)
Overall Width (mm/in)
Overall Height (mm/in)
Sight Radius (mm/in)
Weight Unloaded (gr/oz)
: 92FS
: 9mm x19
: 15
: Single/double
: 217/8.5
: 125/4.9
: R.H.,6 grooves
: 250/9.8
: 38/1.5
: 137/5.4
: 155/6.1
: 975/34.4
92 D
9mmx 19
15
Double only
217/8.5
125/4.9
R.H.,6 grooves
250/9.8
36/1.4
137/5.4
155/6.1
960/33.8
92FS Brigadier
9mm x 19
15
Single/double
217/8.5
125/4.9
R.H.,6 grooves
250/9.8
38/1.5
140/5.5
161/6.3
1000/35.3
92 D Brigadier
9mm x 19
15
Double only
217/8.5
125/4.9
R.H.,6 grooves
250/9.8
36/1.4
140/5.5
161/6.3
985/34.7

I say:

The difference between a single/double action pistol and a double action only pistol is:

- single/double action pistol: I can shoot in two ways. First: I start from decocked hammer and pull the trigger until the hammer before raises and then pulls down itself on the firing pin. (double action) (long trigger travel, great trigger pull weight). Second: I start from a cocked hammer and pull the trigger until the hammer pulls down itself on the firing pin. (single action) (short trigger travel, lighter trigger pull weight).
- double action only pistol: the hammer cannot stay in a cocked position and for this reason I can shoot only starting from decocked hammer and pull the trigger until the hammer before raises and then pulls down itself on the firing pin. (long trigger travel, light trigger pull weight).

With a double action only pistol I can shoot in an only way (double action).
With a single/double action pistol I can shoot in two different ways and theoretically, when I fire many rounds, the first shot (double action) differs from the other (single action).
In my opinion, really this does not happen.
Since the hammer stays in a cocked position when I chamber the first round, and however the hammer stays in a cocked position after shooting, and however when I am in a dangerous situation I raise the hammer until the hammer is cocked, really with a single/double action pistol I always shoot in the second way (single action) (starting from a cocked hammer) (short trigger travel, light trigger pull weight).

In order to shoot with "single action" (short trigger travel, light trigger pull weight) it is necessary that the person has a good training, why in dangerous situations stress can give rise to an involuntary contractions of the finger of the hand and release a shot accidentally.

From this point of view the "double action only" is safer why it needs of a longer trigger travel and therefore eliminates the problems written above.

But a long trigger travel affects the precision of the shooting and the time that is necessary to fire.


No. 37

Q. Caro Signore, Scusi, il mio Italiano e terribile. Io parlo solomente pocci paroli. Grazie tanto per il tuo risposto. Ho visto questi Punzoni del Banco di Prova sulla mia pistola:
1. 1942, sensa rettangolo.
2. Punzone "P.S.F." La scritta e sormontata da una corona.
3. Marchio del Banco di prova di Gardone Val Trompia.
Io credo che la mia pistola, Beretta Mo934, e un modello commerciale. Credo anche, che questa pistola e raro. Sono corretto? (04/13/1999)

A. Sì, tu hai interpretato correttamente quello che la tua pistola "ti dice". Infatti i punzoni che tu mi descrivi dicono chiaramente che l'arma in tuo possesso è una Pistola Beretta, modello 34, prodotta nell'anno 1942 per il mercato civile.
In quel periodo (1942) la quasi totalità della produzione della Beretta era destinata alle esigenze belliche; le armi prodotte per il mercato civile furono una minoranza.
Per questo motivo sono oggi abbastanza rare e ricercate dai collezionisti.


No. 38

Q. Dear Sir, I am a police officer and carry a Beretta Model 92D 9mm pistol. I am considering changing to a 45 cal semi-auto pistol. I am interested in the new Beretta Cougar model 8045 D (double action only). What do you think of this pistol for law enforcement? Also the only thing I dislike about my 92D is the long trigger pull; is this the same for the 8045 D? (04/13/1999)

A. Sir, the Beretta Cougar pistol is surely a good weapon.
It is inserted well in the Beretta tradition for what concerns the reliability and the performances.
It is more compact than the model 92 and for this reason it can be brought in easier way with civil suits.
The caliber .45 ACP is better than the caliber 9 mm parabellum? I think that to this question a certain answer cannot be ever given.
For what concerns the long trigger pull, I have never tested a Cougar 8045 D, but I am practically sure that also 8045D has a long trigger pull. This because the long trigger pull is the feature of the guns "double action only".
Enclosed to the present one a answer that I have given to an officer of Belgian police, that a similar question has done me.

enclosure:

In order to answer to your question I will make large use of that the Beretta says. But I will add also some personal considerations.

Beretta says:

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92D Models are double action only versions of the standard 92FS, with no external safety levers ("slick slide") and the hammer spur removed. Extended side serrations provide a sure grip for fast, easy racking of the slide. D models are as easy to operate as a revolver, with the exact same smooth trigger pull for each shot.
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I say:

The difference between a single/double action pistol and a double action only pistol is:

- single/double action pistol: I can shoot in two ways. First: I start from decocked hammer and pull the trigger until the hammer before raises and then pulls down itself on the firing pin. (double action) (long trigger travel, great trigger pull weight). Second: I start from a cocked hammer and pull the trigger until the hammer pulls down itself on the firing pin. (single action) (short trigger travel, lighter trigger pull weight).
- double action only pistol: the hammer cannot stay in a cocked position and for this reason I can shoot only starting from decocked hammer and pull the trigger until the hammer before raises and then pulls down itself on the firing pin. (long trigger travel, light trigger pull weight).

With a double action only pistol I can shoot in an only way (double action). With a single/double action pistol I can shoot in two different ways and theoretically, when I fire many rounds, the first shot (double action) differs from the other (single action).
In my opinion, really this does not happen.
Since the hammer stays in a cocked position when I chamber the first round, and however the hammer stays in a cocked position after shooting, and however when I am in a dangerous situation I raise the hammer until the hammer is cocked, really with a single/double action pistol I always shoot in the second way (single action) (starting from a cocked hammer) (short trigger travel, light trigger pull weight).

In order to shoot with "single action" (short trigger travel, light trigger pull weight) it is necessary that the person has a good training, why in dangerous situations stress can give rise to an involuntary contractions of the finger of the hand and release a shot accidentally.

From this point of view the "double action only" is safer why it needs of a longer trigger travel and therefore eliminates the problems written above.

But a long trigger travel affects the precision of the shooting and the time that is necessary to fire.


No. 39

Q. Hello Sir, I am planning on purchasing a Beretta Brigadier, but am undecided between cal. 9x21, or cal.40. Which do you suggest for best reliability and less wear on pistol? (04/14/1999)

A. The cal. 9x21 mm is a popular caliber in Italy, because the cal. 9mm luger is not a legal caliber.
The 9x21mm performances and characteristics are practically the same of the 9mm luger. For this motive, since you live on the other side of the Atlantic, there is not reason to choose the cal. 9x21 mm. Then if you choose a cal. 9mm, you will choose 9mm luger.
Your true choice will be between 9mm luger and .40 S&W.
The cal. 9mm luger is a classic caliber, or better very classic. I think that there are doubtful not on the efficiency and on the functionality of this caliber.
The cal. .40 S&W is a newer caliber. It can be seen how an intermediary solution among the caliber 9mm and the caliber .45 ACP. It is a caliber more powerful of the caliber 9mm; it has a greater stopping power; it shakes more the weapon during I shoot it. I say that it is a rude caliber. The number of the contained cartridges in the magazine is smaller.
For what concerns the wear on pistol I don't think there is particular differences.
I think that both the calibers are very good.
Perhaps the better thing would be to try the two calibers (the two guns) and then to choose.
Do you want to know which caliber I would choose me?
I would choose the 9mm luger (great number of rounds, kinder caliber).
You have to consider however that we enter in the personal tastes and convictions.


No. 40

Q. I am looking to purchase a model 72 if you can assist me please let me know. (04/14/1999)

A. The Beretta pistol model 72 is a semiautomatic gun in caliber 22 L.R.
This weapon was produced around 30 years ago. (from 1960 to 1970 approximately)
On the original catalogs it is written that the weapon is sold with two barrels, a barrel 150mm long and a barrel 90mm long.
There is nevertheless some confusion with the model 75. In fact the differences among the two models are not clear.
From a lot of time this pistol is not on the Beretta price list. Then the only possibility is to find it on the second hand market. Some time and patience will be necessary.
I can give you the address of an Italian armory that has some contact with the American market. Price? This gun should cost around 250 USD (in Italy).


No. 41

Q. Hi, thanks for nice pages (though I do not understand Italian)!
I have a 1934, cal .380. It has no engraving on the woodgrip, but on the "beavertail" is a crown and the letters RN. On the other side are the letters FAC under what looks like a crown. Under the letter are a tiny mark which looks like XO. I know the gun came with german troops to north Norway during WWII - my father got hold of it shortly after the war. Do you know what these letter means? (04/15/1999)

A. Hi, thanks for your words. The text written in Italian it is the exact translation of that English (errors excepted or omissions). For this reason there is not anything on my site that you cannot read.
You tell that you have a model 1934 cal.380 that it was brought in your country by the German troops during WWII.
Keeping in mind this event, I tell you:
The wood grips should not be original: probably they are ancient but not original Beretta.
One of the punches engraved on the back part of the frame should be constituted by a crown that surmounts the characters RE (not RN). RE means: Regio Esercito (Royal Army). The crown was the symbol of the Italian monarchy.
The punch on the other side should be FAG (not FAC); also this punch is surmounted by a crown. FAG means: Fabbrica d'Armi Gardone (Factory of weapons of Gardone). This is the name and the place where the military arsenal that taken on consignment the weapons by the Beretta was. Under the characters FAG should be 40 (not XO); it means 1940, and that is the year when the weapon has been submitted to the military control.
If everything is true on the left side of the slide it should be the writings: " P.BERETTA-CAL.9 CORTO-Mo 1934-BREVETTATO " and " GARDONE V.T. 1940-XVIII". XVIII is "the Fascist era" ( XVIII : it is a Roman number who means 18 and wants to say 18 years from the beginning of the Fascist Government in Italy - 1923).
Serial Number should approximately be 850000.


No. 42

Q. I recently purchased a Beretta 950 in cal. 22 corto manufactured in 1956. The gun is in nice shape except for the grips which are warped from heat. The recoil spring arrangement is different from a 950B and these grips will not fit. Can you recomend a source for these grips?
Also I recently examined one of these marked as a Model 1950 manufactured in 1952 I believe. At what date did Beretta change the designation to 950? (04/15/1999)

A. No, any source.
I think that the only possibility is to look for on the second-hand market.
For what concerns the name used by Beretta for this gun, look at the following examples:

Slide marking : " Beretta Brev. 950 - 6,35 " ; manufacturing year: 1953
Slide marking : " P. Beretta - cal. 6,35 - Brev. 950 " ; manufacturing year: 1955
Slide marking : " P. BERETTA - Mod. 950 B - Cal 6.35 " ; manufacturing year: 1965
Slide marking : " P. BERETTA - Mod. 950 B - Cal 6.35 " ; manufacturing year: 1990

I don't know a Beretta pistol marked " Model 1950 ".
I would like to know other information on this gun, the slide markings, the serial number, and any other interesting detail.


No. 43

Q. Can you help me have gun don't know what it is. All the info I have is.
Fabrique Nationale D' Armes De Guerre Herstal Belgique
Browning'sPatent Depose
2203 C or 12203 C
If you think you can help me !!!!!. (04/15/1999)

A. Surely it is not a Beretta pistol.
Surely it is a Browning pistol (Belgium).
Besides this there are not sure things.
The writings that you have listed to me are common to a lot of Browning guns, in particular way to those more ancient.
It would necessary to know at least the caliber and some other detail.
Besides I know well Beretta guns but not Browning guns.


No. 44

Q. Dear Sir: My Beretta Model "1934," serial number 959800, does not have the customary military markings. It is stamped on the slide with the following:
P. Beretta-Cal.9-Corto-Mo934-Brevettata
GARDONE V.T. 1942 XX
Can you please tell me:
a. The meaning of "Brevettata."
b. Why is it marked Mo934 rather than the common Mo1934?
There are no markings to indicate which branch of the armed forces this pistol was issued to. Can this be one of the rare commercial models? (04/20/1999)

A. The meaning of the word "Brevettata" is " Patented ".
I believe that there is not a particular reason for which the gun is marked Mo934 rather than Mo1934.
During the production of the model 34, from 1934 up to 1991, for a total of around 1,100,000 pieces, the variations of the slide markings are numerous. Some of these variations probably happened without a precise reason, when the new punches (rolls) were used to the place of the consumed ones.
The absence of the military punches points out that this gun is a model 34 produced in the year 1942 for the civil market. In that period (1942) the production of the Beretta was predominantly destined to the war demands; the weapons produced for the civil market were little. For this reason they are enough rare today and required by the collectors.


No. 45

Q. I am trying to find ammunition that will not jam in my 21A cal .22LR. Do you have any suggestions? (04/20/1999)

A. I have shot with a model 21A with the following ammunition:
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These ammunition have never jammed.
Surely a lot of ammunition of other Industries don't give problems; it is enough that the cartridge has a good initial speed.
Are you sure that the problem is not in your gun?
(for instance a deformed magazine, a worn-out recoil spring, a very dirty weapon, etc.)


No. 46

Q.Do you have the info for model 92F.CAL.9mm.Parabellum and please include the picture of the gun. (05/03/1999)

A. The model 92F cal. 9mm Parabellum is the first name of the model subsequently called M9 (military denomination) or 92FS (name on the Beretta price list for to the civil market).
Really, in the model 92F miss the safety block (head of the hammer pin), destined to avoid that, in the case of breach of the slide, the slide can exit outside from the rear of the gun.
For the other details, the model 92F is identical to the model 92FS (US M9). The technical features of this model are the followings:

model : 92FS
caliber : 9mm x19
Magazine Capacity: 15
Action : Single/double
Overall Length (mm/in): 217/8.5
Barrel Length (mm/in): 125/4.9
Rifling : R.H.,6 grooves
Pitch (mm/in) : 250/9.8
Overall Width (mm/in) : 38/1.5
Overall Height (mm/in): 137/5.4
Sight Radius (mm/in) : 155/6.1
Weight Unloaded (gr/oz) : 975/34.4

For what concerns a picture of the gun you can see, in my website, the pictures that are reported to the model 98FS (only difference is the caliber, 9x21mm rather than 9mm Parabellum).


No. 47

Q. Can you tell me if there is both a 92FS and a 92FSS? I'm referring to a full-size stainless 9MM. If so, what is difference? (05/12/1999)

A. I have never felt to speak of a model 92FSS.
I only know the model 92FS.
Also on the Beretta catalog there is only this model.
In the model 92FS the letter " S " should mean " safety ", since this model has a further safety in comparison to the precedent model 92F. (The further safety is the block of the slide in case of breakup).
The stainless steel version of the model 92FS is normally called " 92FS INOX ". The stainless steel version (INOX) doesn't introduce any difference in comparison to the 92FS standard (M9) except for the material.


No. 48

Q. I have an old 22 Beretta:

TIPO FLOBERT MADE IN ITALY
C84087
PBERETTA-Mod 950 B-Cal 22 Short
XXVIII

I bought it one year ago for 200 dollars, it is not in a good condition but work excellent, maybe it was so expensive but I live in Mexico and you can't buy guns easily. Here is hard to find .22 short bullets, It's possible to make some changes to accept .22 LR ?. (05/13/1999)

A. Your gun is a Beretta Pistol model 950 B, manufactured in Italy in 1972 (really XXVIII = 1972 would be the year when the gun has been submitted to the proofhouse).
The firearms factory Pietro Beretta is in Italy in Gardone Val Trompia (province of Brescia).
Model 950 is a single-action, semi-automatic, blowbackaction pistol. One of the main features is a tip-up barrel for quick, direct chamber loading and unloading, without working the slide. The first model of this pistol has been constructed in 1950 years. The last model is still produced. Every model differs from previous ones for some modification or improvement. The passage from a model to the other happens in the respect of the conception original of the firearm.
We can distinguish the following main models:
- patent (model) 950 cal. 25 ACP (6,35 mm Browning), 60 mm barrel
- patent (model) 950 SPECIAL cal. 22 short (22 corto), 95 mm barrel
- model 950 B cal. 25 ACP
- model 950 B (60 mm barrel), 950 B SPECIAL (95 mm barrel) cal. 22 short
- model 950 CC, 950 CC SPECIAL cal. 22 short
- model 950 BS (JETFIRE) cal. 25 ACP
The Italian production ended on the earlier 1990 years. Model 950 BS (JETFIRE) is the model today produced. Model 950 BS (JETFIRE) is produced in the States, by Beretta USA Corporation. The feature that distinguishes the model 950 BS from the previous ones is the hammer safety.
As it regards the change of the caliber, I think that it is really very difficult (practically impossible) to change the caliber from .22 short to .22 L.R.
To make a change of this kind would need, at least:
- to change the chamber;
- to change the slide travel;
- to change the recoil spring;
- to change the magazine.
It is necessary to think also to possible legal problems.
It is necessary to think also that the Beretta has never produced a 950 pistol in caliber .22 LR.
For these reasons it is better to abandon this idea.


No. 49

Q. I have a model 92SB, ser.# C29156Z, I would like to know what year it was made and how many were made. I would also like to know how many years the SB model was produced. I greatly appreciate any information you have. (05/15/1999)

A. My knowledges are few because the model 92SB in Italy have never been commercialized for the civil market.
However I try to tell you what I know.
The model 92SB was introduced on the market in 1980.
In 1984 the Beretta made the model 92 SB-F, named more simply 92 F. The model 92 F differs from the 92 SB for the shape of the grips, for the finish of the weapon (opaque rather than polished) and for others small details. Little time after the Beretta put on the market the model 92 FS (M9), that differs from the model 92 F for a further safety that is the block of the slide in case of breakup.
Therefore the model 92 SB has been produced by Beretta from 1980 to 1984.
I don't know how to tell you how much model 92 SB have been produced.
This model is in endowment to numerous Italian military departments among which the police, the carabinieri(military police), etc.. For this reason the samples produced have certainly been many. I think that has been produced more than 100.000 guns model 92 SB but this is a my hypothesis and it is not a certain thing. The true number is probably covered also by military secret.
Obviously I don't even know to tell you in that year has been produced the serial number C29156Z.
I have told you what I know.


No. 50

Q. I own a beretta pistol model 950 B caliber 6.35 mm serial number B-65097, is made in Brazil, i purchased it in february of last year and would like to know the date of manufacture and a source of magazines, it seems that the mags available here in mexico ( homemade or hechizos as we call them in mexico ) are a tad long and protude of the bottom of the gun. thank you in advance. (05/15/1999)

A. according to the serial number, your gun has been manufactured in 1965 (or perhaps in 1964).
The model produced today is the model 950 BS (JETFIRE). Model 950 BS is produced in the States, by Beretta USA Corporation. The feature that distinguishes the model 950 BS from your pistol is the hammer safety.
The magazine is the same.
For this reason you can buy the 950 BS magazine; this magazine should easily enough be available on the market.
I send some addresses to you:

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No. 51

Q. I am trying to do some research on proof marks and the proof process. If you have any sources of information, I would appreciate it. (05/15/1999)

A. As it regards italian proofmarks and italian proofhouse you can look:
-my website (http://www.gipa.net) to the page "Related topics";
the following sites:
http://www.studionet.it/carmib/
http://www.studionet.it/carmib/banco_prova/banco.htm
http://www.studionet.it/davped/htm/banco.htm
http://www.pegasonet.it/vtrompia/gardone/gabanc00.htm
http://www.pegasonet.it/vtrompia/gardone/gastar00.htm



No. 52

Q. Nice page - I hope to see you expand it. I have a 21A LR pistol. The first one misfired and jammed. I had a Beretta dealer look at it, and he replaced the firing pin, and polished the loading ramp to the chamber. The same problem - missfiring, especially on the first round, and failing to completely eject spent casings at least once from almost every magazine cycle continued. I then sent the gun to Beretta U.S.A., and after trying to charge me for repairs,(which I refused to pay}, they sent me a brand new gun! The same problems continue with the new gun - there is almost no difference. I have tried Winchester, Remington, CCI, plus other brands of ammo, and all have the same results. I have tried cleaning, and "breaking in", but this gun refuses to be reliable. Do you have any suggestions? (06/12/1999)

A. There are a lot of reasons that can make to misfire or to jam a gun.
But, since the Beretta has given a brand new gun to you, then I think that they are possible only these three reasons:
- the ammunition;
- the way according to which the weapon is handled;
- a defect of factory on a lot of pistols.
The ammunition:
A friend of mine and I have shot with a model 21A with the following ammunition:
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These ammunition have never jammed or misfired. I think that it is enough that the cartridge has a good initial speed.
The way according to which the weapon is handled.
Even if the thing is really very rare, it is sometimes happened that a gun used by a person gave some problems, while the same gun used by other people perfectly worked. For instance the way in which the first round is chambered, the greatest or small strength with which the weapon is holded, etc. I repeat, it is a very rare fact.
A defect of factory on a lot of pistols.
Also in this case it is really difficult that from the Beretta factory goes out guns with a some problem. However the men can be wrong.......................
In Italy, I have never felt of problems on 21A, but you are the second person from the States that tells me of some problem on 21A.


No. 53

Q. A couple of questions -
Does the Italian National Catalog contain firearms manufactured outside of Italy? I presume it does.
Non CIP sourced arms would be marked at the time of proof? CIP member sourced arms marked by manufacturer?
The only non Italian pistols I have are Glocks and these are made specifically for the USA with a special metal insert for the serial number that was required by the US government. Thanks again. (06/13/1999)

A. It is necessary to distinguish some things.
The proofhouse is a office that carries out the efficiency and quality control of the guns destined to the civil market.
The National Catalogue of the common firearms is a thing provided for by the Italian Law. In the National Catalogue of the common firearms are inserted all those rifled barrel guns that can be in possession of the Italian civilian people. To every gun a number is assigned, called number of catalog.
To be able to sell a firearm in Italy they are necessary, among the others, the following things:
- the gun has to have the punches of the Proofhouse;
- the gun has to have the number of catalog.
There are some exceptions, but they are particular cases, that are not useful for our reasoning.
Now I answer to your questions.
- Does the National Catalog contain firearms manufactured outside of Italy?
Yes, certainly, otherwise these guns could not be sold (and legally possessed) in Italy.
- Not CIP sourced arms would be marked at the time of proof? CIP member sourced arms marked by manufacturer?
Here it is necessary to distinguish:
as I have already said above, all the sold guns (and legally possessed) in Italy must have been submitted to a "recognized (certified)" proofhouse (with some approximation a proofhouse of a CIP member).
Besides a gun, to be able to be sell in Italy, has to have the number of catalog. This number is marked on the gun or from the manufacturer or from the importer.
Then, recapitulating, these are two different phases both necessary ones.


No. 54

Q. Dear Gipa, the web page is WONDERFUL!!! absolutely amazing... and I am sure it will become a HIT with all gun lovers on the web!!! Congratulations on a job well done!!
Could you provide some information on a Pietro Beretta Gardone, model 1953 serial number 154694. What is the value, and where can I get a replacement part for the grip (one side is cracked). It belonged tyo my Grandfather (lui era Italiano!) and I need original papers in order to import it to my country. I am presently in Toronto, Canada and the gun is in Quito, Ecuador (that is where I found it!). How it got to South America, I dont know... like I said, it was my grandfather's and I have absolutely NO documentation for the weapon. Molto Grazie! (06/17/1999)

A. I think that your gun is a Beretta pistol, model 1935, caliber 7,65 mm Browning (32 ACP), built in Italy in 1953. (The number that you have seen on the frame should be the year of manufacture).
The model, on the guns of this type built in 1953, was not marked.
If all of this that I have said is true, then the serial number that you have told me (154694) is been wrong. Very probably the serial number is 754694 (the first digit should be 7 and not 1). If this is true, then we will owe to really have resolved the question.
I will tell you two names where you can find spare parts.
Remembered to specify the caliber (7,65 Browning) and, for the grips, check with a lot of attention if the grips have a metallic support in the inside part, or if they are only plastic. If they have the logo "PB" , then the grips should have a metallic support. Specify well the type of the grips (with or without metallic support) to the supplier. If you need other information, again write to me.
1) ...........................
2) ...........................



No. 55

Q. Caro Gipa, due domande. Che differenza esiste tra il modello 87 e il modello 87 BB ?
Concordi sul fatto che questo modello possa essere considerato "interessante" anche come arma da difesa ad onta del calibro ma in considerazione del caricatore monofilare a 10 colpi ? (15/06/1999)

A. la differenza tra il modello 87 ed il modello 87BB consiste nel fatto che il primo è sprovvisto di blocco di sicura sul percussore, blocco di cui invece è fornito il secondo modello. Per essere chiari mi riferisco al chiavistello visibile guardando il carrello dalla parte inferiore, chiavistello che contrasta con un pieno del percussore e si alza solamente quando il grilletto è a fine corsa, lasciando in tal modo libero il percussore.
La modello 87 come arma di difesa? Ti illustro le mie convinzioni in merito.
Salvo casi eccezionali, e come certamente tu sai le eccezioni confermano le regole, è statisticamente dimostrato che in un "conflitto a fuoco" vengono in genere sparati, da una stessa arma, pochi colpi, 3,4,5 colpi al massimo (e sono già tanti).
Quindi, da questo punto di vista, sarebbe sufficiente un'arma con 5/6 colpi. Quelli in più possono unicamente servire per una forma di tranquillità psicologica.
D'altra parte è importante che la munizione abbia un buon "potere di arresto". Questo anche in considerazione del fatto che nel corso di un conflitto a fuoco, anche la persona più esperta, in preda alla forte carica di emotività (leggi paura) indotta dalla circostanza, non mira e soprattutto non "scatta" in modo ottimale.
Detto in altre parole quello che in poligono è un dieci diventa, se va bene, un cinque, ma non ci sarebbe da stupirsi di un risultato ancora peggiore. Pertanto risulta fondamentale, a mio avviso, l'uilizzo di un calibro che "arresti" l'avversario anche se il colpo "non è un dieci".(E' ovvio che se io non riesco ad "arrestare" per primo l'avversario potrebbe darsi che l'avversario riesca ad "arrestare" me).
Quindi a mio giudizio occorre, come minimo, un calibro come il 9 corto.
(n.d.r. : ci sono in commercio delle 22 L.R. anche molto "cattive" ma io, comunque, non mi fiderei molto del loro potere di arresto).


No. 56

Q. Sir: What is the best ammunition for the Tomcat? I use Hornady 60 grain XTP and local made 71 grain FMJ. Does exclusive and continuous use of this rounds bring damage to the pistol? Thank you very much for your feedback or advise on this matter. (06/16/1999)

A. In my opinion to get an excellent reliability of this gun it is better to use ammunition FMJ.
For this reason I prefer the ammunition FMJ 71 grains rather than the Hornady XTP 60 grains (if I don't mistake this ammunition is a hollow-point).
The corrosive primers are that thing that can mostly damage a weapon but, today, I think that on the market primers of this type don't exist anymore. For what concerns the consumption of the barrel, undoubtedly a metal jacketed bullet consumes more the barrel in comparison to a lead bullet. Nevertheless you keep in mind that the barrel of a gun as the Tomcat should be able to shoot at least 20,000 hits.


No. 57

Q. Vorrei sapere le dimensioni della pistola PAB 84 BB. (18/06/1999)

A. Stimato amico, sebbene con un qualche ritardo, sono a rispondere alla tua domanda. Le dimensioni della pistola Beretta modello 84 BB sono:
lunghezza mm 172
altezza mm 122
spessore totale mm 35
spessore impugnatura mm 35
lunghezza canna mm 97
lunghezza linea di mira mm 124
Queste dimensioni sono uguali a quelle del modello 84 FS Cheetah, che è il modello attualmente presente sul listino Beretta.


No. 58

Q. Could you please help me identify a pistol that recently came into my posession?
It appears to be a .25 cal. On one side is: Made in Italy with the Gardone Val Trompia proofmark, the punch "PSF", and the Roman numerals "XXII". On the other side is: Soc it. Flli Galesi Brescia - Cal 6.35. On each side of the handle is a small brass looking circle with the letters "AG" surrounded by a wreath. I would appreciate any information you could provide. Thank You. (06/18/1999)

A. It is not a Beretta gun.
For what you have told me, it should be a semiautomatic pistol mark GALESI, model 9, caliber 6,35 Browning (.25 ACP), built in Italy in 1966.
I have told you what I know.
I hope for to have helped you.


No. 59

Q. I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON MODEL1915 ( 1st and 2nd type )
whats the difference between it , ammo requirements and also some history and usefull hints about using and cleaning this gun what about dry-firing to practise trigger control ? THANKS (06/20/1999)

A. The Beretta pistol patent 1915 cal. 9 mm Glisenti was the first gun produced by the Beretta. It was produced from 1915 to 1918 in around 16,000 pieces. Serial numbers: from 1 to 16000 approximately.
It was destined, for the almost totality of the production, to the Italian army. It was used in the first world war, and, although in limited measure, also in the second world war. A certain number of pieces remained in the Italian military arsenals up to 1995, year in which the last pieces were definitely sold.
It is a blowbackaction handgun with an internal hammer.
The first type (serial numbers from 1 to 4000 around) is differentiated by the second type for the shape of the magazine (closed with 6 holes, rather than open for all of his length) and for the type and the shape of the complex recoil spring guide - recoil spring. You can see, in my website, the pictures of the disassembled guns of the first one and the second type.
The 9 mm GLISENTI ammunition has the same dimensions and uses practically the same bullets of 9 mm parabellum, but it could be very dangerous to use the 9 mm parabellum ammunitions to the place of the 9 mm Glisenti.
In fact, the power of 9 mm GLISENTI ammunition is considerably smaller, for being able to be used on handguns with blowbackaction ( 9 mm parabellum ammo demands a locked breech).
To clean this gun I would use the usual products, a good solvent and a good oil for weapons. If there are some rusty parts, use the steel wool with a lot of delicacy. Wanting to make some dry-firing to practise trigger control use a fired 9 mm parabellum case with spent primer.
However now I tell what I think.
Today the Beretta pistol patent (model) 1915 is a gun for the collectors.
It is not a gun with which to shoot to the shooting gallery.
With this pistol it can be shot at the most few hits to try the gun.
In any case I give the following advice to you:
first advice: do not fire with this handgun;
second advice: do not fire with this handgun;
third advice: do not fire with this handgun.
If despite my suggestion you want to shoot with this weapon I have many doubts that you can find 9 mm GLISENTI ammunitions. For this reason you will have to reload this ammunition. To reload this cartridge try to use a load 20% lower than 9 mm para ammo. Use also lead bullets. When you fire use safety glasses.
You must accurately verify the fired cases.
You must often verify that on the pistols there are not cracks.
The entire risk as to the reloading and firing is borne by you.
I have not reloaded this caliber and I have not fired with a model 1915 pistol.


No. 60

Q. Recently I was given a Beretta pistol model 950 BS - .25 cal - as a gift but it did not have the instruction book with it. How can I get a copy of this book?? Thank you for your time and have a great day! (06/20/1999)

A. I think that you can try to require a copy of the instruction book to the Beretta USA Corporation. The address of the Beretta USA Corporation can easily be retrieved on the Website of the Beretta USA to the URL http://www.berettausa.com/ .
Otherwise you could try to ask the book to a friend that has a Beretta pistol model 950 BS.
I have a pistol 950 BS......
I bought this gun around two years ago.
I personally opened the box and I personally broke the seals of guarantee put by the Beretta (Italy) on the box.
Inside the box there was the gun 950 BS...... and the instruction book of the model 21A BOBCAT!
For this reason, I cannot be unfortunately you of help.


No. 61

Q. I need a brake down of the mod.948 22lr because I need to see if I can get or order the parts that I need. Thank you. (06/27/1999)

A. I have not succeeded in finding on the dictionary the word " brake down ".
I think that you intend a picture in which the whole parts of the mod. 948 is brought.
If I have understood well, then, despite my efforts, I have not succeeded in finding a picture of the mod. 948. I have only succeeded in finding a picture of the model 34 - 35. These guns are quite similar to the model 948 (I think that there are really few differences: it probably differs the firing pin, the extractor and few other parts)(obviously they also differ barrel, slide, magazine). I hope that you can use the picture that I send to you for your demands.


No. 62

Q. I acquired a "P BERETTA-CAL. 9 CORTO-M 1934 BREVET" "GARDONE V.T 1943 XX" automatic pistol that needs parts. Do you know where I can acquire them? (06/28/1999)

A. the Beretta pistol mod. 1934 cal. 9 mm short is today still on the Beretta price list (at least here in Italy). Then, at least theoretically, it should be possible to acquire parts from any Beretta retailer.
Really I believe that it is enough difficult.
You can try to ask the Beretta Usa Corporation. The address of the Beretta USA Corporation can easily be retrieved on the Website of the Beretta USA to the URL http://www.berettausa.com/ . If the Beretta Usa doesn't give a satisfactory answer to you, you can try to ask, here in Italy, to these two addresses.
Remember that here, in Italy, it is not possible to freely acquire, without the necessary permissions, the "essential parts of weapon" as the barrel, the frame or the slide.
1) .........................
2) .........................


No. 63

Q. You have a wonderful website.
I have been trying to do some research on the .25 calibre Beretta made in the early to late 1950's but cannot find much data. Would you be able to help me out with my questions.
What is the overall slide length?
What is the slide width?
What is the thickness of the frame?
What is the thickness of the handgrips?
Your pictures on the web site are very good. But with early Beretta pistols it is very hard to find pictures of both sides of the gun. What does this 418 model pistol look like from the right hand side, ie where the cartridge ejector is? Are you able to email me a picture? Does this pistol eject the cartridges like a Colt 1911 style automatic? For example, pull the slide back to eject cartridge and reload new one. Or does the slide action work like the .25 Jetfire with tip up barrel? what kind of hammer does this pistol have - is it just a pin type?
I would sincerely value your help. (07/01/1999)

A. I believe that when you say "the .25 calibre Beretta made in the early to late 1950's" you think about the Beretta gun mod. 418 (cal. .25 ACP - 6,35 mm Browning).
You have to remember however that in the years 1950 there was also the Beretta gun cal .25 "Patent 950" (this gun is the "JETFIRE" today). You have to also remember that the pistol mod. 418 is the last of a series of guns cal .25 denominated "patent 1919".
I think that you have to read with a lot of attention the section FAQ of my website, to the items: "Patent 1919 cal. 25 ACP", "Model 318 cal. 25 ACP", "Model 418 cal. 25 ACP", "Model 950 cal. 25 ACP".
However now I respond to the questions that you have done me.
Model 418 is a single-action, semi-automatic, blowbackaction pistol, 8 round magazine, grip-safety. The firing system is constituted from a flying firing pin. Here following some informations related to the gun mod. 418

- slide length : 114 mm (4.5 in)
- slide width : 18 mm (.71 in)
- slide thickness : 3.5 mm (0.14 in)
- frame length : 107 mm (4.2 in)
- frame width : 13 mm (.51 in)
- frame thickness : 1.9 mm (.075 in)
- barrel length : 60 mm (2.4 in)
- handgrips thickness : 5 mm (.20 in) at the bottom, 4 mm (.16 in) at the top
- overall pistol length : 117 mm (4.6 in)
- overall pistol width : 23 mm (0.9 in)
- overall pistol height : 87 mm (3.4 in)

The right side of the pistol is quite similar to the left side. The extractor is set on the superior part of the slide. To use your words this pistol eject the cartridges like a Colt 1911 (and not as a .25 JETFIRE).


No. 64

Q. Caro amico ho preso visione di una rivoltella che appare a prima vista di manifattura piuttosto grossolana. Se non fosse per le guancette con il classico marchio PB, stenterei a credere che si tratti di un manufatto della Beretta.
Sul lato sinistro dell'arma, a fianco del punto rosso della sicura, vi è punzonata la lettera F e, posteriormente alla guancetta, vi è un punzone mal riuscito di cui ti invio una mia interpretazione grafica. Sul lato destro del castello vi è il numero di matricola (anch'esso mal punzonato): 606 37 (Il numero 37 appare quasi raddoppiato da una successiva punzonatura). Al di sotto del numero di matricola appare la scritta CAL.7.65 (Il 65 è più piccolo e sottolineato)
Gradirei una tua dotta opinione. (22/06/1999)

A. Stimato amico, dalla tua descrizione dovrebbe trattarsi di una pistola Beretta, modello 35, prodotta negli ultimi giorni della seconda Guerra Mondiale (e questo spiega la finitura assai grossolana che, oltretutto, passa dalla classica finitura brunita ad una finitura di tipo "parkerizzata") e venduta al comando Germanico nei primi mesi del 1945.
Si tratta degli ultimissimi esemplari prodotti nel periodo bellico, quando la Beretta era nel territorio della Repubblica di Salò. (Quanto ti sto dicendo, oltre che dalla tua descrizione, si desume con buona certezza anche dal numero di matricola 606XXX).
Io direi che la lettera F, punzonata accanto al punto rosso, è tipica di tutte le Beretta 34/35 e sta per (posizione di) Fuoco, contrapposta alla lettera S, che sta per (posizione di) Sicura. Il punzone posto sul lato sinistro dell'arma, posteriormente alla guancetta, dovrebbe essere costituito da un ovale al cui interno sono inseriti, sopra il numero 4 e sotto le lettere UT. Sta per Quarto Ufficio Tecnico, che era l'ufficio (italiano) preposto al controllo delle armi destinate (in quel periodo) all'esercito tedesco.
La assenza di scritte sul carrello, il calibro punzonato sul lato destro dell'arma, sopra il ponticello del grilletto, il caricatore con la suola piatta (anzichè a becco di civetta) dovrebbero essere altri paricolari tipici delle armi di questo periodo.
Se la pistola, nel complesso, è in buone condizioni è senz'altro un interessante pezzo da collezione.


No. 65

Q. Hello, I was in the US Air Force stationed at Aviano in 1978-1980. During this time I worked as a Security Policeman and we were frequently working with the Carabinieri and the Aeronautica Militare. This is where I first became familiar with the excellent Beretta 1934 pistol. I was disappointed to find out that I could not purchase the 9mm Corto model because it was a military caliber and that was forbidden in Italy at the time.
I am in the process now of beginning a collection of Model 1934 pistols. Any information that you can find concerning these excellent pistols would be very useful.
Am I to understand that the 1934 is being made by Beretta in Italy still? If so, I would be interested in discussing with you the possibility of obtaining parts, magazines and accessories. Are there legal issues in Italy concerning this? I would not want to get any one in trouble.
Also is there a source for the purchase of used military and Carabinieri holsters for these excellent pistols?
I saw that the M1935 pistol in 7.65mm was stamped Royal Air Force. I never saw a 7.65 model of this pistol in the hands of any of the Italian servicemen that I worked with. Was this caliber dropped? Can you provide me with any idea of when?
If there is anything that I can do for you or any information that I can provide you with, please feel free to write to me. Thanks. (07/06/1999)

A. the Beretta pistol mod. 1934 cal. 9 mm short is today still on the Beretta price list (at least here in Italy).
These are guns assembled in 1991 with spare pieces produced many years ago by Beretta in sight of military supplies and ever sold to the army (production : probably 2000 pistols). They are therefore guns assembled in 1991 but they are guns virtually produced many years ago. For this reason you should have one of these weapons in your collection.
As the Beretta pistol mod. 1934 is still on the Beretta price list, at least theoretically it should be possible to acquire the pistol and spare parts from any Beretta retailer.
Really I believe that it is enough difficult.
You can try to ask the Beretta Usa Corporation. The address of the Beretta USA Corporation can easily be retrieved on the Website of the Beretta USA to the URL http://www.berettausa.com/ . If the Beretta Usa doesn't give a satisfactory answer to you, you can try to ask, here in Italy, to these addresses.

Spare parts:
1) ....................
2) ....................

Gun:
.......................

Remember that here, in Italy, it is not possible to freely acquire, without the necessary permissions, the guns or the "essential parts of guns" as the barrel, the frame or the slide.
But, the true problem, is where the gun goes.
In other words if where you live there are no big problems for the acquisition of the weapons, then, here in Italy, everything becomes easier. It is enough that the reseller makes a permission for the "definitive export of the gun". (Naturally it is necessary to see if the reseller feels like doing this).
For the purchase of used military and Carabinieri holsters the market is more "difficulty". Here, in Italy, I would know what to do, but I think that for you, from America, is enough difficult. You can try to ask the "Gunsmith" above listed, that could look for the holsters for you.
The Beretta pistol model 35 has been set out of use around the years 1970 (I have made some searches, but nobody has known me to give a certain date). (The last military supplies of the pistol model 35 are of 1951-1952).
The Beretta model 34 is still in endowment to some Italian military departments, but the greatest part of these weapons are stored in the military arsenals and they are not used anymore.
I hope for to thoroughly have answered to all of your questions.


No. 66

Q. Thank you very much for putting up such a great website. I am an American, a native to the Florida area where I live. I discovered what great guns Berettas are when I bought my first one about five years ago. It is an 84F Cheetah in .380 cal (9mm Corto) with Plastic grips and Bruniton finish. I have fired it about 5000 times and it has never failed in any way. My revolvers were never as reliable as this Beretta! I have since bought a 21A Bobcat .22, a Tomcat 3032 and most recently, the new Beretta 92G Elite Brigadier in 9mm Parabellum.
I think I'll get a model 70 next in 7.65 browning. Would you say that this is also a very reliable pistol? Is it a good compromise between the Tomcat 3032 and the 84F in .380 as far as size is concerned ( the 84 is a little large and the tomcat a little small)? (07/07/1999)

A. Yes. Without any doubt the Beretta pistol model 70 is a very reliable and very efficient gun. It has been used for a lot of time by thousand and thousand of people and by numerous military departments. As you say, this weapon could be a compromise among 84F (a little large) and the Tomcat (a little small) pistol.
Nevertheless you have to remember that the Beretta pistol model 70 has been planned and built in 1958 (41 years ago). This means that it doesn't have all that features of a modern weapon (safety, finish, design, materials, etc.) and for this reason it is a good weapon but it is a weapon a little ancient also. It is not anymore on the Beretta price list and therefore it is necessary to acquire this gun on the second hand market. Finally, according to my opinion, the caliber 7,65 Browning is a little small a caliber for the personal defense.
Then, if you want a suggestion , you can buy a Beretta pistol model 85F; this model is as the model 84F, but it has a 8 round magazine. For this reason this weapon is slightly smaller and flatter than the model 84F; at the same time the caliber is 9 short.
This caliber is a caliber that I judge fit for the personal defense.
If however you like a smaller weapon, and you don't despise a more ancient weapon, you can buy a Beretta pistol model 34. This legendary weapon (projected in 1934) has been the symbol of the Beretta for long time (up to M9). It has been produced in more than a million of pieces. The reliability and the efficiency of this gun are indisputable. The caliber is 9 short. This gun is still found on the Beretta price list (at least here in Italy).


No. 67

Q. Dear Mr. Gipa, My older brother was in the U.S. Navy during WW II . He got a Beretta in Sardinia.
Markings on the gun are:
Pistola Beretta 7.65 Brev. 1915-1919 Mo 1934 XII 408139
It has Walnut Grips with a small silver emblem set flush in each Grip of an Anchor with RM. The Sn 408139 is on the Slide and Frame. On the Barrel is 8139 also on the Trigger Transfer Bar.
Proof-marks.
First Mark : A circle with a Shield in it with a Cross on the Shield and a line from the center of the Cross ( 45 degrees ) up to the right corner of the Shield.
Second Mark :A circle with BF in it.
I know I shouldn't have , but I fired 50 rounds of CCI 71 gr FMJ through it with no problems.
Do you think it was a Naval Offiicers Sidearm or someone in the San Marco Marines? Regards. (07/07/1999)

A. You have a very interesting weapon and a weapon a lot of wanted from the collectors.
As it results from your precise description, it is a Beretta pistol model 1934 cal. 7,65 Browning, Royal Navy contract.
It was the sidearm of the Officers of Italian Navy in the second world war.
Built in 1934 (XII is the Fascist Era) your gun is one of the first samples of that pistol that subsequently (from the serial number 411000 around) it will become the Beretta pistol "model 35" (the Beretta pistol model 34 known all over the world is in caliber 9 short).
This weapon (model 35) was also used by the Royal Air Force, from the Police, and from other Italian military departments.
The first gun of this model (1934 cal. 7,65) has serial number 408000 around and for this reason your pistol should be the gun number 139 (of this model).
The proof marks that you have described to me are unequivocally the punches of acceptance of the Italian Military Navy.
As you have said, you don't have to shoot with this gun!!!



No. 68

Q. My dad gave me a pistol mod 948 cal 22lr. It works great. I couldnt find any info in any books on it. Can you give me any history on this great little gun? Thanks. (07/02/1999)

A. The Beretta pistol mod. 948 is the first attempt of the Beretta to build a weapon for the sporting shot. This gun is also the first gun of the Beretta to use a rimfire ammunition (22 L.R.).
It was produced in the first half the years 50 (from 1950 to 1957 around).
This gun directly derives from the models 34 and 35 and is quite similar to these models. The slide partially appears redrawn in comparison to that of the models 34 and 35 and it is a prototype of that that will be the slide of the Beretta pistol series (model) 70.
The anterior part of the slide can be closed around the barrel (in this case it brings the front sight), or it can be opened (in this case the front sight is directly joined to the barrel).
The frame is in light metal.
The barrel can be short (85 mm long) or long (150 mm long). In this last case the anterior part of the slide is always opened around the barrel to allow the disassembly of the weapon.
It can be considered that from this weapon derive the following model 949 (olimpionic type), a weapon this really fit to the sporting competitions.
You can consult my web site, to see some pictures and to know some other informations.


No. 69

Q. Could you please tell me what these markings mean?
I am looking at a Beretta marked on the safety side:
PIETRO BERETTA - GARDONE V.T. - Cal 9 Corto
PSF XXII
I assume the serial number is on the non-safety side: E67xxx. The last 4 digits are also stamped on the slide and barel.
I also see the hand grip looks different than any of the photos on your site. The symbol is of three spears crossing the symbol and it is placed at the top of the grip instead of the bottom of the grip as in your photos.
I also need more magazines for it. Any information would be helpful, thanks. (08/11/1999)

A. The gun that you are looking is a Beretta pistol model 34 cal. .380 auto.
It is one of the last pieces produced. It was produced in 1966 as says the punch " PSF XXII " (Gardone Val Trompia proofhouse)(Gardone Val Trompia is a small city next to Brescia, Italy). You have to remember however that in 1991 the Beretta produced around 2000 of these guns with spare pieces produced many years ago in sight of military supplies and ever sold to the army.
The serial number is that punched on the right side of the frame (on the non-safety side) and that is E67xxx.
It is regular that the last 4 digits are also stamped on the slide and barrel.
Also the grips are characteristic of the last production. They are exactly as you have described and in the gun it misses the lanyard ring.
As the Beretta pistol mod. 1934 is still on the Beretta price list (at least here in Italy), at least theoretically it should be possible to acquire extra magazines and spare parts from any Beretta retailer. Really I believe that it is enough difficult. You can try to ask the Beretta Usa Corporation. The address of the Beretta USA Corporation can easily be retrieved on the Website of the Beretta USA to the URL http://www.berettausa.com/ .
If the Beretta Usa doesn't give a satisfactory answer to you, you can try to ask, here in Italy, to these addresses.

1) ..........
This is an enough large company. It is specialized, between the other things, in spare parts of Beretta guns.

2) ..........
He is a very good gunsmith. He is specialized, between the other things, in Beretta guns. Also this person would have to be able to find the spare parts that interest to you.


No. 70

Q. Estimados amigos:
y les quería preguntar si me podrían acercar información sobre la pistola que les mando en estas fotos. me la obsequió un vecino y no tiene número de serie, solo dice: "the best automatic pistol express". y del otro lado dice: "for the 6.35 catridge", el mango es de nácar y está mal cuidada.
quería pedirles por favor que me manden información sobre esta pistola, fotos, forma de desarmarla y cuidados. muchas gracias. :)(08/11/1999)

A. le immagini che tu mi hai inviato si riferiscono ad una arma che sicuramente non è una pistola Beretta.
Per questo motivo è per me molto difficile dare direttamente una risposta alla tua domanda. Pertanto ho trasmesso la tua domanda ad un grosso esperto di armi, che mi ha dato la seguente risposta:

Molto probabilmente si tratta di una pistola prodotta da qualche artigiano di Eibar, Paesi Baschi (Spagna).
La rifinitura non molto accurata (visibile anche dalle foto) è caratteristica del periodo e della zona di produzione.
Potrebbe essere una copia di una Bergman Bayard con lievi inflessioni di Fabrique National (Browning) ed un pizzico di Mauser.
La produzione potrebbe essere del periodo tra il 1919 ed il 1921, anno dopo il quale anche in Spagna le armi furono sottoposte alla prova al Banco.
La produzione Basca fu spinta dagli eventi bellici della I° Guerra mondiale in quanto sia la Francia che l'Italia non erano preparate ad una guerra così lunga, e di conseguenza i propri arsenali non erano in grado di fornire armi a sufficenza: la Spagna, paese neutrale, ebbe una modesta produzione di armi corte tutte assorbite dai belligeranti a partire dalla fine del 1915 fino all'armistizio. I pochi controlli degli acquirenti riguardavano solo la quantità di armi consegnate e non la qualità. Quelle destinate all'Italia sono finite soprattutto ad armare corpi che in teoria ne avrebbero fatto scarso uso come la Regia Marina.
Tipico degli artigiani Spagnoli era copiare, con materiali di scarsa qualità, armi automatiche di grido ( in questo caso la canna scoperta e con perno di fisaggio anteriore si ritrova sia sulle Bergman che sulle Mauser, la sicura, che sembra intercetti un cane interno e non un percussore lanciato, ricorda alcune Browning della Belle Epoque). L'unico particolare strano è la presenza di un doppio estrattore (dalle foto ne compare uno a destra ed uno a sinistra). Tipico spagnolo è pure la mancanza di matricola (forse sotto le guancette vi sono punzonati dei numeri di assemblaggio, come all'interno dell'otturatore, difficilmente oltre le tre cifre) e di un marchio di fabbrica; il tutto per non incorrere in problemi per aver violato brevetti altrui. Anche le scritte in Inglese portano a pensare ad una produzione Basca e non Belga, in quanto questi ultimi erano, in tale periodo, impegnati a fornire i propri eserciti, e raramente compaiono scritte in inglese su armi corte belghe (solitamente erano in francese o tedesco); inoltre a Liegi era obbligatoria la prova al Banco già dalla fine dell'ottocento ed infine gli artigiani di bassa leva belgi erano specializzati nella produzione di revolver e non di automatiche.


No. 71

Q. I would like to know what kind or type(e.g. +p, +p+ ....) of ammunitions is my Beretta 92F Compact(13 shot) allowed to use so that the barrel will not be destroyed. I understand that not all ammunition type can be used. Thank you and please send the answer so that i can buy the proper ammunition. (08/24/1999)

A. The only way of having a new weapon is that not to use the weapon.
If I use a weapon it is inevitable that the weapon is consumed.
Particularly way will be consumed the barrel. This part of the gun has a determined life-time and, if I really use so much a gun, at a certain moment I will have to change the barrel. Nevertheless you keep in mind that if I use in a correct way a gun as the 92F Compact, the barrel should have a life-time of around 20,000 hits.
Corrosive primers are that thing that can mostly damage a barrel (and a gun) but, today, I think that on the market primers of this type don't exist anymore (for this reason do not use ammunition manufactured many years ago).
For what concerns the consumption of the barrel, undoubtedly a metal jacketed bullet consumes more the barrel in comparison to a lead bullet.
If I use factory ammunition, normally the consumption of the barrel is quite small. If I can choose among more kinds of ammunition, it is always convenient to choose ammunition that gives moderate pressures. If I reload the ammunition there is no reason to make extremely strong loads: these loads are dangerous, they deteriorate the gun (or at least they considerably consume the barrel and the gun) and, from the practical point of view, they really add few to the performances of the gun.
Personally, at the shooting gallery, I use always lead bullets.
For what concerns the lead ammunition, spire-pointed bullets or semi wad cutter bullets of extremely soft lead can give feed jams.
It is very important to clean the pistol after to have used it. To clean the pistol you have to use a good solvent and a good oil for weapons.


No. 72

Q. Do you know if Beretta produces the couger 8045 in a stainless steel version? If so is it avaliable in the U.S.? Thank you in advance for your reply.(08/25/1999)

A. I think that Beretta produces the 8045 Cougar (cal. 45 A.C.P.) in a stainless steel version.
I think this thing even if in the website of Beretta Usa Corporation (http://www.berettausa.com/) and of Beretta (http://www.beretta.it/) a thing of this kind is not written.
I think that the better thing is to ask Beretta Usa Corporation. The address of Beretta USA Corporation can easily be retrieved on the Website of Beretta USA Corporation (http://www.berettausa.com/).


No. 73

Q. What is the model designation of the Beretta 92 series that is blue with gold lettering on the slide? (09/05/1999)

A. You have not given a lot of details to me around the pistol.
However I think that it is the "model 92FS EL".
I send what it is written on the Beretta catalog around the model 92FS EL to you.

92 FS EL Model : feature highly polished, blued slide and frame with gold "P. Beretta" signature and smooth, richly figured walnut grips. Gold-plated screw heads, magazine release button and safety lever add a special touch to this handsome EL version.


No. 74

Q. Thank you for you website! I have a Beretta that I could not identify until I looked at the pictures you have posted. It is a Model 73. Can you tell me anything about this pistol. Thank you. (09/26/1999)

A. The Beretta pistol model 73 makes part of the series of pistols called "series 70".
The "series 70" is a series of pistols produced in the years since 1958 to 1976 around. All the guns of this series (models 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 74A, 75) are based on the same project and differ for caliber, length of barrel, form and dimension of grips, form and type of sights.
The functioning is based on blow back action. The caliber is 22 L.R. or 7,65 Browning. The length of barrel is 90 mm or 150 mm. The grips are small or enlarged. The sights, in special way the rear sight, are fixed or adjustable. 8 / 10 round magazine.
The model 70 (cal. 7,65 Browning, short barrel, small grips) is a gun for personal defense. All the other models were born for target shooting. All guns of this series are very reliable and very efficient guns.
The main features of pistol model 73 are:
cal 22 L.R.;
overall length: mm 235;
height: mm 136;
length of barrel: mm 150;
weight of pistol with empty magazine: g 570;
front and rear sights: fixed on the barrel;
grips: enlarged;
10 rounds magazine.
Model 73 differs from model 74 for the fixed sights (model 74 has the adjustable rear sight). Model 73 differs from model 70, 71, 72, 75 because the rear sight is on the barrel (the other models have the rear sight on the slide). It finally differs from the model 70, 71 for the length of the barrel and the shape of the grips. Moreover model 70 is 7,65 Browning caliber.
This series of guns had a large popularity and in Italy many thousand of these guns were sold. A lot of of these guns were also exported in United States.
Today, in Italy, is still used model 70; all the other models are interesting only for the collectors.
Price, here in Italy, for a weapon under good conditions, from 200 to 250 USD.


No. 75

Q. I was hoping you could help me. I have a model 70 disassembled and am having trouble reassembling it. Do you know where I could find an instructions to do this? Thanks. (09/27/1999)

A. Here following I copy what is written on Beretta manual for model 70. I also send some illustrations of the Beretta manual to you.

Beretta says:

1. First remove magazine, then draw the slide back for a look into the chamber and check that it is empty. (Cock hammer first to facilitate backward movement of slide).
To remove magazine, keep push button magazine release pressed down until the magazine is fully out. Reassemble in reverse order.

2. Hold pistol in left hand (tap muzzle against a wooden surface to loosen barrel). Push slide back with right hand till notch on the lower edge of the right side of the slide is opposite the slide lock. With left thumb rotate matted button of slide lock counterclockwise. (Fig.2)

3. The slide is thus released and permitted to come forward, on the front.

4. To remove barrel, release recoil spring guide with its spring, pushing it slightly forward to disengage from notch in the barrel. (Be careful since the recoil spring is tightened). Proced as shown in figure 4.
Reassemble in reverse order.

I say:

If the pistol is ok they should not be particular problems to reassemble the gun.
You have to put attention to these two things:
1. BE SURE that recoil spring guide with its spring is correctly and COMPLETELY seated in notch in the barrel.
2. When you reassemble the slide, before rotating the button of slide lock clockwise, TAP MUZZLE AGAINST A WOODEN SURFACE TO SLIGHTLY WITHDRAW THE BARREL.
If there are real problems to reassemble the gun, there is probably some part ko.


No. 76

Q. Dear Sir, Appreciate your kind help for solving my serious problem stated below.
I have a Model 70 calibre 32 ACp (7,65 Browning)-first type-push button safety pistol.Unfortuanatly i have broken one piece while making its regular cleaning.And as there is no distributor or any representative of yours that exists here in Istanbul/Turkey, I do not have any other way by being trouble to you. As I tried to find the missing piece on your plans however I could not even find the plan of my pistol on your website. As I dont know how it is called in English, the broken piece that I have been looking for, so I will try to explain on the plan of Mod.83F This is the piece that holds the slide catch (number 15) on the right side of the pistol. it looks like a very tinny crescent. When you put into the slide catch through the pistol, the slide catch's tin part reaches the rightside of the pistol then you just stick it by this little crescent there. This little crescent is the piece that i need to have.
I hope I have managed to explain what I need to fix my pistol and wondering if I could get any help from you for the first time as a long term Beretta user.Thanking You.(09/25/1999)

A. I apologize for my delay but in this period my job has hocked really a lot me (Beretta pistols are only my hobby).
Your description seemed clear to me, but on the manuals published by Beretta there is no trace of the piece that you describe to me. On the other hand, if I have understood well, the piece that you want is not even present in the 83F plan.
I have also examined some guns Beretta model 70 but I have not succeeded in individualizing the "very tinny crescent".
I send 2 pictures brought on the Beretta manuals of the guns of the series 70 to you.
If you succeed in finding the piece, I ask to you to send an e-mail to me because I am curious. Otherwise send a new e-mail to me with still other informations and, if possible, a draw of the piece, and I will try to discover what it is.
A thing: I think that for the regular cleaning of the gun it absolutely is not necessary to get off the slide catch. For the regular cleaning of the gun it is enough to remove the magazine from the weapon and to get off slide, barrel, recoil spring, recoil spring guide. Sometimes to get off and to clean the magazine.


No. 77

Q. I just received a Beretta pistol from my mother's husband. It was surrendered to him by an Italian officer during WWII. Thanks to your site, I was immediately able to identify it as a model 1935, learn about it's history, and get an idea of its market value. Thank you for a very interesting site! I will share it with friends who are avid collectors. (09/21/1999)

A. Thanks, thanks for your kind words. I am very happy that my website has been helpful to you. This is the true purpose for which I have built my website. Thanks still.


No. 78

Q. Is is possible for a "last type" model 418 in .25 cal (1958) to have a gold-tone alloy frame (i.e.;1947 model 418)? The grips are 1958 and the lines above are diagonal, yet the lower frame is gold-tone alloy. Were there transition models in 1958 that used the old alloy frame? The trigger is also gold (gold plated?) but bright gold. Thanks for your help with this curious issue.
Also, from reading your faq. page, it appears that the model 418 does not have the tip-up barrel. I have a serial # 23728C. It seems to be a mix of the 1947 gold-tone frame and the 1958 three rings - Beretta grip and diagonal lines above grip versions rather than the 1947 P.B. grips and vertical lines. Were there conversion models of this .25? Thanks. (09/28/1999)

A. There are many models of this pistol. The first model has been constructed in 1920. The last model has been produced until 1961, therefore for more than 40 years. During this period there were almost continuous changes.
Guns with alloy frame had been built since 1937 at the end of the production, independently from the model.
The pistol of last type almost all have the frame in alloy (dark - anodized). It is possible that a "last type model 418" have a gold-tone alloy frame.
The Serial Number 23728C, punched on the frame, says without doubt that it is a gun gone out of Beretta factory in the years 1957-1958.
It is also possible that the Beretta has used a frame of old production joined with new slide and grips.
You have to look the grip-safety. If the grip-safety is rounded, then it is a frame built before 1950-1951. If the grip-safety in the upper part is sharpened, then it is a frame of last type. (you look in my website the images "model 418 alloys frame" and "model 418 last type").
The pistol model 418 makes part of a series of guns named "patent 1919". The Beretta pistol patent 1919, is a single-action, semi-automatic, blowbackaction pistol cal. 6.35 Browning (.25 ACP). The firing system is constituted from a flying firing pin. The barrel is 60 mm long, 8 round magazine, grip-safety. The weight of the arm with empty magazine is about 350 g.
The barrel is not of tip-up barrel type; the barrel is hooked on the frame through horizontal millings on the lug fitted under the firing chamber, as for the model 1922 and the most known models (19)34 and (19)35. In these guns the barrel is that part that completes the assemblage and the closing of the weapon.
The first Beretta pistol with a tip-up barrel has been the pistol "patent 1950" (cal. 22 short/25 A.C.P.), built around 1950.

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Q. Thanks for your recent response to my question. My father owns the pistol in question and was delighted to tell me: HIS MODEL 418 DOES HAVE A TIP-UP BARREL! Can you believe it? He must have a bizarre parts-gun or they were having a slow day at the factory and decided to have some fun. BTW, the grip-safety is the non-round newer type. Thanks again for the fun your comments gave us.

A. Congratulations to your father for this pistol!
It would be very very very interesting to have a photo of this gun. My friends and I, have seen never a gun of this kind. If yours father and you agree, and if you send a good photo of the right side and a good photo of the left side to me, I will be pleased to publish such photos on my website.


No. 79

Q. I recently inherited a Berretta AUT 7.65 mm 1915-1919 pistol and I was wanting to know if ammunition was available today for it. The printing on the side has large numberal 7 with smaller numberals 6 and 5 aligned with the top of the 7 which I take to mean the caliber is 7.65mm . The pistol is in fine condition and was also wonder how much it was worth. I have included two photos. One photo is an overall look at the pistol and the other has part of the printing that is on the side. If you could confirm it is a caliber size I would appreciate it. If you could also recommend the modern caliber of ammunition I could fire in the pistol that would possible be safe to us in the pistol. (10/10/1999)

A. From the photos that you have sent to me I see that it is a Beretta pistol patent 1915-1919 model 1922.
If you look at the item "patent 1915-1919 model 1922" in the page "Pictures" of my website you see the photos of two guns that should be as yours.
The caliber is 7,65 Browning (32 A.C.P.).
It is a caliber used today broadly still and for this reason it is easy to find the ammunition. It is an enough "kind" caliber and for this reason the weapon should be able to shoot without problems. It would be better to use lead bullets ammunition. However before shooting it carefully checks the gun. If you are not experienced you make to carefully check the gun from a trusted person. You remember that the materials used in 1920 were not the materials used today. The time also works and on this gun the time has already worked for about 80 years. For these reasons your gun model 1922 it is not a gun with which to shoot 500, 1000, 2000 hits. I suggest to you to shoot 50 - 100 hits; then I would clean the gun and I would put it in a drawer. To my notice of a weapon is treated that is for collectors.
The value of this gun is from $150 to $250 around, according to the conditions.


No. 80

Q. Purchased beretta 948 for 200.00 made in 1955 Italy. Is great little gun in 22 lr.
Can you send any more info on this gun.I have been offered 600.00 for it. I dont think I will sell any time soon.Any more information would be appreciated. Are there a lot of these guns still around. (10/05/1999)

A. In FAQ page of my website there are many information related to the Beretta pistol model 1948. However I list here following the most meaningful information. You can also look at Pictures page for some images. You have bought a good gun and the price is OK.

The Beretta pistol mod. 948 is the first attempt of the Beretta to build a weapon for the sporting shot. This gun is also the first gun of the Beretta to use a rimfire ammunition (22 L.R.).
It was produced in the first half the years 50 (from 1950 to 1957 around). This gun directly derives from the models 34 and 35 and is quite similar to these models. The slide partially appears redrawn in comparison to that of the models 34 and 35 and it is a prototype of that that will be the slide of the Beretta pistol series (model) 70. The anterior part of the slide can be closed around the barrel (in this case it brings the front sight), or it can be opened (in this case the front sight is directly joined to the barrel).
The frame is in light metal.
The barrel can be short (85 mm long) or long (150 mm long). In this last case the anterior part of the slide is always opened around the barrel to allow the disassembly of the weapon. It can be considered that from this weapon derive the following model 949 (olimpionic type), a weapon this really fit to the sporting competitions.


No. 81

Q. I Have recently acquired a Beretta that my grand father brought back from World War II and I was hoping you could help me get some information regarding its history and possible manufacturer. If not, could you refer me to someone or forward this email on.
The markings on the side are as follows:
Along barrel, first line: "P. Beretta Ja_9 Cort_ Mc 1934-Brevettato"; second line: "Gardone V.T. 1940 XIX".
On the back, same side as the above markings is a crown with an RE next to it. On the other side of the handle of the proof mark (crown with an RE) is another mark. It is IVU with a circle/oval outline. Also, on the right side, along barrel and below there is that appears to be a serial number of 844377. The pistol is black, with a white grip and the initials PB on each side of the handle.
If you could help it would be greatly appreciated. (10/11/1999)

A. The gun that you have described to me is a Beretta pistol model 34 cal. 9 short (380 ACP).
The history of this weapon is written on the gun.
You write: Along barrel: P. Beretta Ja_9 Cort_ Mc 1934-Brevettato The writings are probably consumed a little bit: the writings in reality are: "P.Beretta-Cal. 9 Corto-Mo.1934-Brevettato" : then it is a pistol Pietro Beretta, caliber 9 short (380 ACP) model 1934 - Patented.
You write: Gardone V.T. 1940 XIX : the weapon has been produced to Gardone Val Trompia (Brescia, Italy) in the 1940 year, nineteenth of the Fascist Era. (XIX is a Roman number that means 19 and that is the nineteenth departed year from the year in which the regime Fascist taking the power in Italy).
You write: On the back, same side as the above markings is a crown with an RE next to it : "RE" (Regio Esercito) is the punch of military acceptance of the Royal Army. Then this gun, produced in 1940 by Beretta, it was used by the Royal Army (probably it was the official gun of an Officer of the Italian Royal Army).
You write: Other Side along barrel and below there is that appears to be a serial number of 844377. Yes, that is the serial number of the weapon. Last 4 digits should be also punch on the clog of the barrel.
You write: on the other side of the handle of the proof mark (crown with RE) is another mark. It is IVU circle with / oval outline : this punch means "fourth technical bureau" (IVU = IV U = IV is a Roman number that means 4 and " U " (Ufficio) it is for bureau) and it was the office preceded to the control of the weapons assigned to the soldiers.
You write: The pistol is black, with a white grip and the initials PB on each side of the handle. This is a strange thing as the grips, for a weapon with these characteristics and of that period, they are always black (with a metallic support on the inside part). Therefore, if the grips are white, probably they are non original grips.


No. 82

Q. Hi, I have a Beretta mod. 948 which has a beautiful silver engraved finish with tortoise shell grips with silver Beretta medallions. The gun is in .22 cal and serial no. 94562N, it is complete with a red letherette beretta case , extra magazine and cleaning brush.
Serial Number is not in the range of numbers indicated on your website, also it has the usual PSF proofs and a roman numeral XVII stamped over the year 1958, which seems unusual?
Can you tell me if this is a rare variation of the mod 948, and if you know how many of these engraved 948 were produced? Also I am intrested in knowing what the value of this gun is? Ciao e grazie. (10/25/1999)

A. Guns with special finishes (gilded, silvered, nickeled, engraved) are present among all the models of the Beretta guns exception, probably, of the patent 1915, of the model 1917 and of the model 1922 (the first three models produced by Beretta).
In other words guns with special finishes are present in the whole Beretta production beginning from 1923 until today.
For this reason it is "normal" that there are items with engraved finish also for the model 948.
Obviously a Beretta with engraved finish is always and however a piece of big merit and a item looked for by the collectors.
The serial numbers in my website are only an example.
The serial number of your gun tells that it is one of the last model 1948 produced.
As it regards the year of production, there is a some doubt: in fact the number 1958 would point out how year of production 1958; contrarily the Roman numeral XVII would point out as year of production 1961. The frame was probably punched a first time in 1958 and then it was punched again when the gun really went out of the factory in 1961 (in fact you say: "a roman numeral XVII stamped over the year 1958").
You ask how much of these 1948 engraved was produced. I don't know it, but I think that they were produced few exemplary, perhaps an hundred.
You ask what the value of this weapon is. If the weapon is really under perfect conditions and if the weapon is complete of accessories (you say: "it is complete with a red letherette Beretta case , extra magazine and cleaning brush ") the value of this weapon is from $850 to $1000 (here in Italy, but I think that in USA the prices are enough similar).


No. 83

Q. Ciao! Complimenti per il sito ! Sono un appassionato Beretta (fucili) e qualche giorno fa mi hanno proposto l'acquisto di una pistola 84 9corto. Non essendo pratico dei vari modelli ho preso qualche informazione ma i risultati sono contrastanti:
una buona pistola per difesa ma.......anemica nel munizionamento (il 9 corto è "fiacco").
Era usata dalla Guardia di finanza fino a qualche anno fa.
E' ancora in produzione.
Risponde al vero questo ?
Grazie per la cortesia che mi vorrai usare rispondendomi. La tua grande passione ed esperienza mi saranno preziosi. (10/17/1999)

A. Io ritengo che la modello 84 (9 corto) sia un'ottima arma per la difesa personale.
E' dotata di caricatore bifilare che può contenere fino a 13 colpi (più l'eventuale colpo in canna).
Ma se teniamo presente che una delle doti di un'arma da portare per difesa personale, e cioè un'arma da portare addosso, è quella della portabilità (e cioè poter essere occultata facilmente sotto abiti civili, non pesare eccessivamente, e non essere eccessivamente ingombrante, anche per facilitarne l'estrazione) allora potrebbe essere ancora meglio la modello 83 (stessa arma della 84 ma con caricatore monofilare - 7 colpi - e quindi più piatta e più leggera). A questo proposito ricorda che è statisticamente dimostrato che nel corso di un confilitto a fuoco, dalla stessa arma, vengono sparati al massimo tre o quattro colpi (5 è già una eccezione).
Per quanto concerne il calibro non è potentissimo, ma è pur sempre un calibro 9. Ricorda che con il calibro 9 corto (e cioè con la mitica Beretta modello 1934) i nostri Ufficiali hanno combattuto senza grossi problemi tutta la seconda guerra mondiale. D'altra parte, a tutt'oggi, molte persone portano per difesa personale armi in calibro 7,65 Browning, calibro ben più anemico e fiacco del 9 corto. (Io giudico il calibro 9 corto il calibro minimo per la difesa personale e quindi non porterei mai un'arma in calibro 7,65 Browning, ma molti lo fanno).
Credo che la Guardia di Finanza abbia usato come arma di ordinanza la modello 84 ma non ne sono certo e non so dirti in che misura.
Invece posso dirti che la modello 85 (come la 84 ma con caricatore monofilare e non catalogata come arma civile -la 83 ha la canna 5 mm più lunga- ) è tra le armi in dotazione agli Uffciali dell'Arma dei Carabinieri.
La 84 è tutt'oggi sul listino Beretta; in particolare il modello commercializzato oggi è denominato : "84 FS Cheetah" (prezzo di listino 1.141.000).
Ovviamente se l'arma non serve per essere portata addosso, ma solo per essere tenuta a casa nel cassetto del tavolo o dentro il comodino, allora che cosa c'è di meglio di una bella modello 98 FS in calibro 9x21 IMI?. Ugualmente dicasi se l'arma non deve essere occultata sotto gli abiti ma portata sopra gli stessi in una fondina non troppo angusta (ad. es. guadie giurate).


No. 84

Q. Dear sir, I recently inherited a Beretta pistol. It is marked on the slide Pietro Beretta Brescia Cal 7.65 Brevettc 1915 The ser # is 682xx It seem to be in good shape but is missing the magazine. Do you know of any sources for this? Preferably in the USA but I'll try anything. Thank you in advance. (11/06/1999)

A. Your weapon should be a Beretta pistol patent 1915 model 1917, cal. 7,65 Browning. This weapon is one of the first pistol made by Beretta (approximately the 68000 pistol made by Beretta).
It is not easy to find a magazine for this gun.
In my website, in the Fans of Beretta pistols address book there is Richard Biggs. He is a great collector of Beretta guns and lives in USA, in Virginia. You can ask information him.
Also in the Fans of Beretta pistols address book there is Barbanti Andrea. He is a big expert of Beretta guns and a good gunsmith. He lives in Italy. You can try to email him.
I hope that you succeed in finding the magazine.


No. 85

Q. Ho da poco avuta in regalo una Beretta mod. 70 che è simile a quella nella foto (lato sx) pubblicata nel tuo sito. Purtroppo ha qualche difetto nella leva del disassemblaggio e temo si tratti di una leva adattata da qualche altro modello. Potresti inviarmi la foto del lato dx (lato leva disassemblaggio) per capire se la leva della mia pistola è originale?
Ho anche una 952 e sono sulle tracce di una Glisenti mod. 1910. Grazie e Ciao. (11/06/1999)

A. Io ti invio alcune foto tratte dal manuale di istruzione Beretta di questa arma (sono peraltro le uniche foto che ho disponibili in questo momento), da cui si dovrebbe poter vedere con chiarezza quella che è la la leva di disassemblaggio originale della modello 70. C'è anche illustrata la procedura di smontaggio/rimontaggio dell'arma, cosa anche questa che forse ti può essere utile.
Dalle tue parole credo di capire che tu hai un certo interesse per le pistole italiane del passato.
Bene! Tieni presente che una collezione di pistole italiane, magari di pistole Beretta, è senz'altro una collezione molto interessante, anche se la maggior parte dei collezionisti non è ancora "abituata" a questa idea.


No. 86

Q. I am a pistol collector (deactivated pistols) from Malaysia. Recently, I came to know that the Israeli Mossad issued .22 caliber Beretta pistols to its field operatives. Do you know which model were issued? I hope you will be able to answer my question. Thank you. (11/06/1999)

A. The Israeli Mossad used many models of Beretta pistols cal. 22 L.R.
However the model more used was the model 70 cal. 22 L.R. (or the model 71 because this is the name with which the Beretta identifies the model 70 cal. 22 L.R.).
Probably, even if my information are not certain, the Israeli Mossad used, before model 71, model 1948; after model 71 used model 87, even if in small measure. In conclusion the Israeli Mossad has been a big estimator of the Beretta pistols cal. 22 L.R.


No. 87

Q. Can i purchase literature on the loading unloading and safety functions of the Beretta #1915? (11/06/1999)

A. You did me a difficult question and I hope that my answer is useful to you.
I give the names of two books to you, but I don't know if they can easily be acquired.
1) Ian V. Hogg and John Weeks - Pistols of the world - by Lionel Leventhal Limited
2) Ugo Menchini and Pierluigi Taviani - Pietro Beretta le automatiche - by Editoriale Olimpia Florence Italy
You have to know that also in these books there are few words on what you find.
Also you have to know that the information that you gave to me can point out more than a gun. In other words you have to remember that they exist:
- a Beretta pistol patent 1915 cal. 9 mm Glisenti
- a Beretta pistol patent 1915 model 1917 cal. 7,65 Browning
- a Beretta pistol patent 1915-1919 model 1922 cal. 7,65 Browning
In my opinion all these guns are guns for the collectors and my suggestion is to shoot with your gun "model 1915" only some testing hits.
Also you have to remember that the caliber 9 mm Glisenti has the same dimensions of the caliber 9 mm Parabellum, but it is less powerful (around 20% lower).
It would be VERY DANGEROUS to use ammunition 9 mm Parabellum in the pistol patent 1915.
In conclusion my suggestion is to put this weapon in collection and not to shoot with this gun.
If you need other information you again email me. However you have to tell me with precision the model (or the writings on the gun). To get information you can also see the section FAQ of my website.


No. 88

Q. Hello, I have a question concerning my Mod. 950 BS in .25 cal. The serial number of the pistol is BT21498 V. I purchased the pistol used here in Bolivia. It seems to be in very good condition. I don't think the previous owner fired it much. I do a lot of trekking in the Andes mountains, and a lightweight and compact pistol like the 950 is an exellent companion. Unfortunately, I'm having a lot of trouble with the pistol jamming. It jams after almost every round, no matter whether I use ball or hollow-point ammunition. Although it's embarassing to admit it, it's possible that I misassembled the slide after stripping the pistol. Do you have any schematics or detailed drawings of the 950 so I can be sure to put it back together correctly? Any information you could send me about my pistol would also be appreciated. Thank. (11/07/1999)

A. Here enclosed, I send some pages of the manual of the Beretta mod. 21A to you (this is the manual that came together with my model 950BS factory new, in the original Beretta box). I tried the instructions written on this manual, and it seems to me that the instructions are also correct for model 950 BS.
Obviously in the reassembly of this pistol the recoil spring levers have to correctly engage the slide cutouts and the slide has to correctly flow in the frame's guide lug.
Keep in your mind however that hardly a misassembled 950BS succeed in only shooting also one hit: it is practically impossible.
It is easier therefore that there is some part that has some problem. For istance a magazine with the lips deformed or a recoil spring (or lever) broken or deformed. You check therefore these parts. If you are able you have to buy a new magazine (it could be useful however). If you have some other problem you again email me.


No. 89

Q. Object: cal. 40 v/s 45 v/s 9mm
Hi: I am interested in a good weapon to serve as all around protection. ie, man intruder, or beast in the wild. So, size of caliber and still concealability are considerations.
Next:
can I obtain one by mail-order to save on the price and taxes??? I live in Idaho and am getting my concealed weapons permitt now. Thanks for your response in advance. (11/07/1999)

A. Your question would require an answer of a lot of pages or a lot of times of conversation. I will try to give some suggestions to you.
Caliber : 40 S&W is a "rough", "graceless" caliber. It is necessary to be enough experienced to shoot well with a caliber of this kind.
I think that 9 mm parabellum is OK.
Also, It would be OK 45 A.C.P, but a magazine contains a number of rounds inferior (you have to watch out for the legal restrictions on the number of the rounds that a magazine can contain).
Concealability : 9 mm parabellum and 45 A.C.P. (and also 40 S&W) require enough great guns. If you want a smaller pistol, that can be transported and hidden in a better way, then you have to choose a smaller caliber. However you don't have to go down under .380 A.C.P. (9 mm short).
Mail-order : I think that if you are not an expert of guns, it is better to buy the pistol in a gun store, in which there is a person that can give suggestions and help.
You can buy the gun by mail-order if you are experienced of the guns and if the law of your state allows it (I don't know it).
You have to think about what I have told you. Also you have to talk to other people, and then eventually email me again.


No. 90

Q. Dear Sir, I am interested in purchasing one best pistol so kindly send the latest brouchre+information completely.Basically i am an army officer. So that i can select any latest version of the guns from your magazine. I shall be thankful to you for this act of kindness. BEST REGARDS AND MANY THANKS. (11/05/1999)

A. Sir, thanks for your interest, but I am not a seller.
I am only a Beretta pistols fan and an expert of weapons.
If you like Beretta pistols (this would be a good choice), you can look at the website of the Beretta to the address: http://www.beretta.it


No. 91

Q. Sono un carabiniere in congedo e come tale ho avuto la fortuna di utilizzare una beretta FS cal. 9 parabellum. Ho trovato l'uso di quest'arma particolarmente "piacevole" data la sua leggerezza, potenza e precisione ed ho deciso di procurarmi un porto d'armi per uso sportivo volendo utilizzare una beretta per il mio piacere e diletto. Ottenuto il porto d'armi in questione desideravo avere un consiglio su quali siano le pistole beretta più indicate per uso sportivo, cioè, tanto per intenderci, da usare in un poligono e naturalmente il loro costo. Spero in una pronta risposta. (07/11/1999)

A. Se tu sei rimasto affezionato all'arma che hai usato come carabiniere, perchè non comprare una Beretta 98 FS in calibro 9x21 IMI ? Questa arma è praticamente identica, come aspetto e prestazioni balistiche alla 92 FS che tu avevi sotto le armi. Con un'arma di questo genere si può sparare tranquillamente nella stragrande maggioranza dei poligoni di Italia, e le soddisfazioni che ci si possono togliere sono molte. Naturalmente non puoi pretendere di ottenere, in termini di precisione assoluta, le stesse prestazioni di un'arma da tiro.
Se vuoi qualche cosa abbastanza simile, ma più specificatamente concepita per l'uso nei poligoni di tiro, puoi prendere una Beretta 98FS Target (sempre in calibro 9x21 IMI). Questa è un'arma catalogata come "sportiva" (e quindi non può essere utilizzata per difesa personale) e può darti delle prestazioni superiori, in termini di precisione, alla semplice Beretta 98FS.
Sempre un'arma derivata dalla 98FS, ma di disegno più nuovo, ed in qualche misura più accattivante, è la Beretta 98 FS Combat Combo (dotata di canna lunga e canna corta), ma si comincia a salire di prezzo e ad andare su armi che conviene comprare quando si hanno le idee abbastanza precise.
Se invece ti vuoi avvvicinare decisamente al tiro sportivo, quello finalizzato alla precisione assoluta, allora ti consiglio la Beretta 89 Gold Standard in calibro 22 L.R. Ma, attenzione, se poi diventi veramente bravo, questa arma ti diventerà rapidamente insufficiente e dovrai comprare un'arma specifica per le gare (ad esempio una FAS od una Pardini od una Benelli od una Morini od una Walther od una Hammerli e chi più ne ha più ne metta).
Comunque bisogna cominciare da una parte, e, se il gioco piace, probabilmente la prima pistola non sarà l'ultima e neanche la sola .........
I prezzi (di listino): 98FS L. 1.679.000; 98FS Target L. 2.110.000; 98 FS Combat Combo L. 2.670.000; 89 Gold Standard L. 1.421.000.
Tieni presente che, se sei veramente bravo e riesci a tirare veramente molto sul prezzo, puoi ottenere uno sconto di circa il 15%.
Sul mercato dell'usato puoi trovare queste armi, in condizioni più che buone, con uno sconto di circa il 40% sul nuovo, però occorre o intendersi di armi o fidarsi di qualcuno.
Spero di esserti stato utile.

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